https://prisonjobs.blog.gov.uk/2017/12/13/an-introduction-to-poelt-prison-officer-entry-level-training/

An introduction to POELT (Prison Officer Entry Level Training)

Prison officers in training

Before any prison officer is ready to start their new career in the prison service, they receive Prison Officer Entry Level Training (POELT) to prepare them for the job ahead. This blog post will provide you with an overview of the POELT, what to expect, and my own personal tips on how to make the most of the training.

I’m Dave, and I started out as a prison officer. By working through the ranks, developing my career, I’m now the Delivery and Development Co-ordinator at HMP Newbold Revel – the prison service’s largest prison officer learning centre. So, I have extensive knowledge in both being a prison officer and in training them.

An overview of the POELT

Altogether, the POELT is a 12-week programme that equips new officers with the skills and knowledge needed to begin their careers working in the prison service and rehabilitate offenders. Currently, it starts with an induction week at the prison you’ve applied to, followed by a 10-week intensive training course at one of our 40 learning centres across England and Wales, and ends with a consolidation week back at your prison.

At your induction, you’ll get an overview of working life in a prison and an understanding of the different complexities behind the prison officer role and areas of responsibility. For example, you’ll see the variety of departments that make up a prison, such as healthcare, chaplaincy, the gym, the library and more! There will be no assessments and you won’t be responsible for any offenders during your induction.

Most importantly, you’ll also be introduced to both your line manager and mentor, who will be your first points of contact for any support you need during your first year of probation. This gives us a chance to get to know you and any initial areas of concern you may have that we can help with.

You’ll then attend your 10-week training. This is so you can contextualise and prepare for the environment you’ll eventually be working in.

Finally, you’ll attend your consolidation week at your prison for your last week of training. Prisons vary from one another so this is a great chance for you, with support from your mentor and line manager, to put into practice what you’ve learnt from your course. This is also an opportunity to see if you need any extra training or guidance. This will typically be the first time you work directly with offenders, but you’ll always be supervised and supported by experienced members of staff before ‘going live’ as a fully trained prison officer.

What to expect from the 10-week training

You’ll get the tools and confidence to be a professional prison officer. We provide a variety of ways for you to learn: from classrooms to team-building exercises, from lectures to hands-on problem-solving. You’ll also have individual assessments and group projects throughout the training to make sure you’re reaching the required standard.

Prison officers socialising

The training has a very inclusive environment, centred around teamwork and collaborative working. So, it's also a great time to make some friends and bond with fellow officers from different prisons.

Another important part of the 10-week course is ensuring you get the support you need in preparation for your new career. All our prison officer trainers are qualified, skilled, and experienced to deliver the training and they work closely with your personal mentors.

How the course is run

The 10-week training course is intensive but we split it into bitesize chunks. We start simply with giving an overview of how a prison works, what life as a prison officer is like, and what to expect in your role.

Prison officer trainer demonstrating CPR in classroom
Prison officers being trained in first aid

Training then ramps up each week. You’ll start learning the basics on safety: cuffing, cell-searching, locking and unlocking doors. There’s also mandatory training on areas including:

  • first aid
  • food hygiene
  • health and safety
  • the rules and regulation within the service

Throughout the course, the training focuses on giving you the skills and knowledge to create a rehabilitative environment for the people in our care. Ultimately, your role as a prison officer is to help provide the tools and opportunities for offenders to lead law-abiding, successful lives and to cut down reoffending.

So, you’ll learn de-escalation tactics, how to deal with confrontation and strengthen your interpersonal skills. Communication is vital in being a prison officer. You’ll be trained in being keyworkers for prisoners: to be mentors and guides.

Prison officers speaking with a prisoner

This includes understanding how you behave and how you are perceived as an officer. We use lots of techniques on understanding human behaviour, with the view to rehabilitate, and understand the problems and challenges people have, to allow us to influence others and change people’s lives.

Assessment

You’re assessed throughout the training, and our assessors evaluate your performance through day-to-day observation, feedback and project work. We’ll also give you the skills and confidence to present both individually and as a group.

When it comes to grading, we don’t use the word ‘fail’. If you find something challenging, we’ll work with you to help you overcome it.

After the 12 weeks have been completed, you come away from the POELT with a Level 3 diploma in the management and care of individuals in the custodial environment. You’ll also gain a first aid qualification, and a certificate in food hygiene. You can use these qualifications as a platform to help you specialise or get promoted within the prison service.

My advice to you

One of my personal highlights running these training sessions is seeing how much people learn about themselves. I love seeing how new prison officers mature collectively as a group and as individuals through this process. They really grow professionally and often develop a renewed perspective on life, based on the work we cover on a vast and often challenging range of topics. The training provides a genuinely positive experience.

So, before you start your career in the prison service:

  • get rid of any preconceived ideas you may have and come with an open mind
  • think of the uniform you wear and what it represents – we are a uniformed service that protects the public, so wear it with pride
  • remember that resilience is important in being a prison officer; what we do is challenging but incredibly rewarding

To find out more information about prison and probation jobs, visit our recruitment website.

343 comments

  1. Comment by Kim McCall posted on

    Is there any compensation while doing the POELT?

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      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Kim, thanks for your question. You get paid the full prison officer salary whilst on the Prison Officer Entry Level Training, and this includes London weighting for relevant prisons.

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        Comment by Kim posted on

        Hi Emily ,
        If you then pass your POELT, do u go straight into a position ?
        If you can’t b offered a job at your chosen prison do you then have to wait for a vacancy and then you will be unpaid until you take a position ?

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          Comment by Helena posted on

          Hi Kim,

          You’ll actually start at your chosen prison before your 10-week POELT course starts. Please refer to this blog post as it provides more information.

          Once you pass, you’ll go straight into your shift pattern as a prison officer.

          Thanks, Helena

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  2. Comment by Dan posted on

    I live in Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire. Where would the closest POELT centre be? Also, can you visit home at weekends? Thank you.

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      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Dan,

      Thanks for your comment. Whilst we have multiple training venues around the country to make training as convenient for people as possible, we have to allocate people to the spaces we have available. But, we will always try to take into consideration where you live, the prison you have applied to, and your personal circumstances.

      If you are placed a bit further from home then we arrange accommodation for you Monday - Friday and you're back home at weekends.

      I hope that helps,

      Emily

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        Comment by Jane posted on

        What other training course do you have to undertake to be a prison Officer ? What wage whilst doing this 12 week course please. I am 18

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          Comment by Emily posted on

          Hi Jane,

          The Prison Officer Entry Level Training is the only training you need to formally take in order to become a qualified prison officer. You are paid the standard full-time prison officer salary during your training. Salaries depend on the prison you've applied to - you can find out more information on salaries by exploring the official prison and probation jobs website: https://prisonandprobationjobs.gov.uk/

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        Comment by Gemma posted on

        Hi I’m currently going through vetting and I’m awear this can take up to 12 weeks. My concern is I completed my RAD August 2017 and by the time vetting is complete and I give my notice into work it’s very possible that I will be running into August. What will this mean for me? Thank you.

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          Comment by Emily posted on

          Hi Gemma,

          Thanks for your query. You shouldn't need to worry; you only need to have been offered a job within the 12 months for your RAD accreditation to remain valid - you don’t need to actually be in post within the 12 months. Therefore, the time it takes for vetting to complete won't impact your RAD accreditation.

          I hope that helps,

          Emily

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  3. Comment by Sean posted on

    Could you tell me on the training course are you away from home for 10 weeks

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      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Sean, thank you for your question. The POELT course will be residential only if we have had to place you in a training centre a bit further from home. If this is the case, we will arrange accommodation for you during the 10 weeks, but you go home at weekends.

      If you are allocated to a training location that's close to home then you can commute in throughout the 10-week course.

      We have to allocate people to the spaces we have available, but we will always try to take into consideration your location, the prison you have applied to, and your personal circumstances.

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  4. Comment by Rachel posted on

    Hi
    I attended my RAD training 9 weeks ago, was offered a provisional job offer at Rochester Prison, awaiting to hear more, as I’m still in the vetting process.
    How long does it usually take to start the POELT?
    Also where would the training centre be? I live in Kent.

    Thank you

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      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Rachel,

      Congratulations on your provisional job offer! After passing your RAD, vetting on average takes around 12 weeks and once that is complete you'll be invited to attend your POELT. You can then start your training as soon as a place is available.

      For your POELT training, we use multiple training venues around the country and we allocate people to our available spaces, which means you may not be at the training centre that’s closest to you. We always try to take into consideration where you live, the prison you have applied to, and your personal circumstances. If you are placed a bit further from home then we arrange accommodation for you Monday to Friday, and you're back home at weekends.

      I hope that helps,

      Emily

      (Edited: I have updated this comment to more accurately reflect the average time it takes to complete vetting.)

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        Comment by Jon posted on

        Hi

        Whilst on POELT training do you get bank holidays off?

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          Comment by Emily posted on

          Hi Jon,

          I'm very sorry for my delayed response. Prison Officers are expected to attend all classes during their POELT, some of which may fall on Bank holidays.

          This is because prisons need to be staffed every day, including bank holidays.

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      Comment by Heather posted on

      Hope to see you there as that's where I've applied to as well.
      Just got through my vetting and waiting for the Next stage. Looking forward to it.

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  5. Comment by Paul posted on

    Hi.Do you have any POELT training courses that are in Yorkshire?

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      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Paul

      Yes, we have training centres across England and Wales.

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  6. Comment by Rachel posted on

    Thank you Emily 🙂
    Okay that’s great.

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  7. Comment by Mark posted on

    Hello I will be starting my training in March. I was wondering if it is possible to claim mileage expenses to and from your place of training?

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      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Mark

      I'm very sorry for the delay in my response - I was finding out the answer for you. Yes, it is possible to claim travel expenses. Please refer to your prison to find out further details, as it differs for each prison.

      Thank you

      Emily

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  8. Comment by Caroline posted on

    Hi

    Does anyone ever fail the exams on Poelt training ?

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      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Caroline

      Apologies for the delay in my response. When it comes to grading, we don't use the word 'fail' - if you find something challenging, we’ll work with you to help you overcome it.

      However, all prison officer trainees do need to meet the standard requirement. The POELT course is run on a pass and refer back basis, where if you do not meet the required standard, the training centre will refer you back to your establishment (your chosen prison). The prison you've applied to will then look at your case, and make a decision whether or not to put you back onto another training course.

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  9. Comment by Jennifer posted on

    Could you pease tell me if there is any writing assessment test for Prison Officer Entry Level Training or it is just a training course

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      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Jennifer,

      Yes there will be written and practical assessments during the training. You'd might like to refer to the 'Assessment' section of this blog post to find out some more information.

      Thank you,

      Emily

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  10. Comment by Jennifer posted on

    Is there any writing assessment test after the Prison Officer Entry Level Training finished just to know if pass or fail

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      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Jennifer,

      Sorry for the delay in my response. There are writing assessments during the POELT, but when it comes to grading at the end, we don't use the word 'fail'. The POELT course is run on a 'pass' and 'refer back' basis.

      If you do not meet the required standard, the training centre will refer you back to your establishment (your chosen prison). The prison you've applied to will then look at your case, and make a decision whether or not to put you back onto another training course.

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  11. Comment by Lisa posted on

    Hi, I currently have an application going through and was hoping someone could tell me the training hours at Newbold? Im hoping to do non residential as I have a 4 year old and my husband does early starts. My travel time would be approx 1 hour each morning so I will need to look into early hours childcare.
    Can anyone help me on this question please?

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      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Lisa,

      The training hours at Newbold Revel are:
      Monday: 10am - 5pm
      Tuesday to Thursday: 8am - 5pm
      Friday: 8am - 12pm

      This is to allow sufficient travelling time to and from the learning centre at the beginning and end of each week.

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  12. Comment by Heather posted on

    Hi
    I've managed to pass everything and by phoning up found out on 2nd February 2018 that an email has been sent to my chosen prison.
    How long on average will I need to wait until they phone me?
    Do they wait until there is space on the next training course?
    From start when I filled in the application form it's taken me so far since October to get this far.

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      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Heather,

      Once you've passed your Recruitment Assessment Day, vetting on average can take around 12 weeks. Once your vetting is complete, you'll be invited to attend your POELT and you can then start your training as soon as a place is available.

      The average time it takes from submitting your application to becoming a fully trained officer, can be around 9 months. We know that’s not short, which is why we’ve created this blog to help keep you informed during your journey to becoming an officer.

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  13. Comment by Rob posted on

    Could you tell if I have accepted a start date but the only training is in Rugby (I live just outside of Manchester) and there is no accommodation left on site would there be help towards alternate accommodation? Thanks

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      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Rob,

      We use multiple training venues around the country and we allocate people to the spaces we have available, which means you may not be at the training centre that’s closest to you. We do always try to take into consideration where you live, the prison you have applied to, and your personal circumstances.

      If you are placed a bit further from home then we provide accommodation for you Monday to Friday, and you're back home at weekends.

      Hope that helps,

      Emily

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        Comment by Rob posted on

        Hi Emily, Thank you for your reply. How do I go about setting up the accommodation? I am more than happy to travel to any location for training but I was informed not all are residential and I couldn't justify the cost of travelling to and from Rugby each day. Thanks

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          Comment by Emily posted on

          Hi Rob,

          I'm afraid I'm not going to be able to discuss specific details about your POELT arrangements on this public blog - but I'd say the best thing would be for you to get in touch with whoever you've been liaising with to arrange your POELT, or contact the prison you've applied to.

          I hope that helps,
          Emily

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          Comment by Luke Powell posted on

          Hi rob, when do you start your POELT at newbold? I’m start my induction on the 12th and my training on 19th March and I’m residential luckily, I’m coming from Abergavenny- South wales😊

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            Comment by Jen keane posted on

            Luke!
            I start the same date as you, I am also going to be residential, did you have to apply for a room or anything or is that already sorted for us?

            Jen

  14. Comment by Laura posted on

    Hi. I currently have a provisional offer at HMP Nottingham & whatton, vetting in process. My online application now says they will contact me shortly with the next stage of the recruitment process. Does this mean I have passed vetting?
    Thankyou laura

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      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Laura

      You'll be able to tell if you've passed vetting by logging into the online applicant portal and seeing if your status has been updated to say that your pre-employment checks have been successfully completed.

      Thanks,
      Emily

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        Comment by Amy posted on

        Good afternoon,

        I am in a similar position in which I attended RAD on 06/March and given a provisional offer 08/March commencing the whole vetting process straight away. I am now in a position in which my DBS was returned 23/03 and I have not had any updates since. On the application centre it advises they will be in contact shortly but I am unsure what/where this 'portal' is that keeps being referenced to track the progress. I understand it is a long process however I had to make my employer aware that they may be approached for a reference over a month ago [noticed wasn't handed in as advised] but, now I am sort of at a standstill. Is there anyway to get any sort of updates?

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          Comment by Helena posted on

          Hi Amy,

          Thank you for your query, I’m sorry to hear of the difficulties you’ve had. Please contact the prison you’ve applied to and ask for the Vetting Contact Point (VCP) or the People Hub, they should be able to help you with this. The application centre is also known as the applicant portal, which is where you originally applied and receive communications from HMPPS: https://justicejobs.tal.net/candidate.

          Thanks, Helena

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  15. Comment by Hardy posted on

    Hello Emily

    Are travel expenses covered if travelling to and fro home in order to attend an allocated training centre eg my prison will be HMP Huntercombe but I will attend POELT at HMPS College Newbold Revel?

    Many thanks in advance.

    Regards

    Hardy

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      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Hardy,

      Yes, it is possible to claim back travelling expenses. Please refer to your prison for further details as the policy is different for each prison.

      Thank you

      Emily

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  16. Comment by Steven Snape posted on

    Hi Emily,

    I'm currently waiting on my vetting. I've been told by Shared Services to contact my Vetting Contact Point (VCP) of where I took my RAD too find out the latest on my process. Do you know how I would get this contact number?

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      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Steven,

      Thanks for your query. If you have concerns about the length of time it’s taking for your vetting (pre-employment) checks to complete, you can get in touch with the vetting contact point (VCP) at the prison you’ve been allocated to. You would need to ring through the main prison number and ask to be put through to the VCP or People Hub. However, please note that the VCP will only be able to request an update if you’ve been in pre-employment checks for more than 6 weeks.

      Also, please note that on average, pre-employment checks can take around 12 weeks to complete.

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        Comment by Mohammed posted on

        Hi Emily
        I've read your responses to questions pertaining to Vetting timescales. I was offered a re-allocation to a prison alternate to the one I applied at initially. I accepted the reallocation offer.
        It's been 5 weeks since that last email from SSCL and last week my countersignatory informed me that he sent off his reference as well. I imagine it will take a further few weeks for a final offer to come through, please correct me if I'm wrong.

        Thank you.

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          Comment by Emily posted on

          Hi Mohammed

          Yes it can take approximately 12 weeks for vetting to complete. If you have concerns about the length of time it’s taking for your vetting (pre-employment) checks to complete, you can get in touch with the vetting contact point (VCP) at the prison you’ve been allocated to. You would need to ring through the main prison number and ask to be put through to the VCP or People Hub. The VCP can request an update if you’ve been in pre-employment checks for more than 6 weeks.

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  17. Comment by angela posted on

    Hi Emily,

    I completed my rad in May last year. Vetting finally started on the 6th Nov. I tried to ring shared services but they wont update me on my vetting. Is there anyone else I can ask? I am quite concerned that in just over 3 months my rad results will expire as they only last 12 months.

    thanks

    Angela

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      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Angela,

      If you have concerns about the length of time it’s taking for your vetting to complete, you can get in touch with the vetting contact point (VCP) at the prison you’ve been allocated to. You would need to ring through the main prison number and ask to be put through to the VCP or People Hub. The VCP can request an update as you’ve been in pre-employment checks for more than 6 weeks.

      I hope that helps,

      Emily

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  18. Comment by richard posted on

    hi emily
    i have been in the service for 20 years , on the catering side and im considering becoming an officer finally,
    do they still invite families to newbold or training centres when training is complete?
    thankyou

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      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Richard,

      Thanks for your question. This no longer happens, but instead prison officers who have passed their training are given a certificate presentation with their trainers.

      Thank you

      Emily

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  19. Comment by Lisa Watt posted on

    Hi, I start my POELT in Newbold on March 19th.

    I already have the NVQ L3 in custodial care and management.(I gained this whilst at a previous establishment as a PCO) Can you let me know what i should do (do I take my certificates with me to Newbold) Many Thanks.

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      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Lisa

      You should get in touch with your allocated prison and ask to please speak with the POELT Mentor there. The Mentor should then be able to clarify with the Learning and Development team what is required for you.

      Thanks

      Emily

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  20. Comment by Mark Hughes posted on

    I've just applied, so very early days. Just want to say thanks as your questions and comments have answered a lot of the questions i had.

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      Comment by Emily posted on

      You are very welcome! I am happy to help. Thank you very much for your feedback, it's much appreciated.

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  21. Comment by Adam Hampson posted on

    Just had a conditional offer through and believe I now need to go through vetting and a health questionnaire online? Any rough timescales when poelt will be if I pass as I'm getting married in July so need a couple weeks off. Thanks

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      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Adam,

      Congratulations in advance for July! Vetting can take around 12 weeks to complete. Once completed, you'll be invited to attend your POELT. You can then start your training as soon as a place is available.

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        Comment by Natasha Moore posted on

        Hi,
        I've recently passed the RAD and not realised I applied for a merit scheme. It's states that no one from the merit list will be allocated until all candidates have completed the RAD or by the closing date of the assessment. How do I find out when assessments have finished for a timescale in which I may be asked.
        Thanks.

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          Comment by Helena posted on

          Hi Natasha,

          I’m afraid you won’t know when all assessments have been finished as it depends on other candidates and when vacancies arise at the prison you’ve applied to. The only information we’re able to provide is that you’ll remain on the merit list for up to 12 months.

          Thanks, Helena

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  22. Comment by Khan posted on

    I would like to know that I live at Glasgow.
    Any nearest POELT Training centre from Glasgow.
    What are the requirements to apply for POELT Training.Do we need to pay for this training? Duration of training?

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  23. Comment by Rowan Dyson posted on

    Hi just filled out pre-employment Check at What point should I resign at may current job? Also they are unaware that I will be hopefully leaving soon worried that the vetting team will call them and if I don’t pass vetting I will lose my current job .

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      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Rowan,

      We would always advise candidates not to hand in their notice with their current employer until they've received confirmation that all pre-employment checks have been completed and they've been approached to discuss a start date. We will happily work around a candidate's notice period when organising a start/training date.

      Just to let you know, vetting can take approximately 12 weeks to complete.

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  24. Comment by Stephanie posted on

    I recently got my start date for Wormwood scrubs and training at Newbold Revel, I live in central London and don’t drive in the city, so I’m just wondering are travel expenses covered for trains to and from Newbold Revel? I am staying on site Monday to Friday so it’s just for travelling home at weekends. Thanks!

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      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Stephanie,

      Yes, it is possible to claim travel expenses but please refer to your prison to find out further details, as the policy differs for each prison.

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  25. Comment by callum posted on

    hi Emily

    I have passed the RAD and been offered a conditional offer at my local prison last week, iv just completed the vetting form and health questionnaire, and now I am waiting out but I am still in the army and will not be able to start training till December will this effect my application or will the prison take this into consideration?

    thanks Callum

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      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Callum,

      Congratulations on your conditional offer! You'll be able to discuss your start date with your prison once all your pre-employment checks have been completed, which can roughly take 12 weeks, and you've been approached to discuss a start date. We will happily work around a candidate's notice period when organising a start/training date.

      Thank you

      Emily

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        Comment by callum posted on

        hi Emily

        brilliant thank you for your fast response and answer

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  26. Comment by Anthony posted on

    Hi

    Thinking of applying to the prison service

    Just few questions

    I have asthma but I can easily do the fitness test can you still apply? I’ve asked friends who are P.O and as far as they know there isn’t a issue

    Also what are the background checks ( presuming it’s make sure you have not got a criminal record, your not a member of any extreme political parties etc and your right to live in the UK

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  27. Comment by Jon posted on

    Good morning, I’ve been in the process since October it’s been an exciting couple of months, took myself a while to get a police check from Spain as I lived there for a year, my vetting started in January, however my clearance letter came through last week which I thought was very quick. On my application online it’s says “we’ll be in touch shortly to explain the next process” could you tell me what the next process could be please? Although it’s been a week I don’t want to ring and be a hassle.

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      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Jon

      Congratulations on your offer! The next step after your vetting is complete is to book onto your Prison Officer Entry Level Training; you can read more about this in the blog post is above these comments.

      You can also find the process on our recruitment website under 'Process': https://prisonandprobationjobs.gov.uk/

      For your ease, I've provided the specific link that details the process here: https://prisonandprobationjobs.gov.uk/prison-officer/tips-for-applying/

      I hope that helps,

      Emily

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        Comment by George posted on

        Hi John I'm in the process and seem to be in the same timescale as you. I applied in October and started my vetting in decwmber. I had the same message come up on my portal but hasn't changed yet. Have you had any change?

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          Comment by Keira posted on

          Hello. I applied in August 2017, however it took months for my results to get passed over, I've only been in vetting for 4 weeks and my status has just changed to " we will be contact shortly to let you know the next stage of the progress"

          Does this mean we passed? how did you get on?

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  28. Comment by Sandy posted on

    Hi
    I was given a start date in April 2018 for HMP Berwyn however I was unable to accept as I had booked annual leave in May 2018 and was told I’m not allowed to take any time off during training. Are you able to tell me when the next training for POELT starts after April?
    Or roughly how long does training take place after one another?

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      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Sandy

      Thanks for your query but I'm afraid I don't have access to that information - but please rest assured that you'll be contacted about the next POELT spaces as soon as they become available.

      Thank you

      Emily

      Reply
  29. Comment by Kimberley posted on

    Hello

    I am waiting to hear back after my status recently changed to next step of recruitment after vetting, my concern is I get married in July if the poelt course was during this time would annual leave be considered?

    Thank you

    Kim

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      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Kim

      Congratulations for July! You aren't able to take leave during your training but when you're approached by the prison to arrange your start date they'll be happy to discuss when you start your training, to take into consideration your wedding.

      Reply
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        Comment by Kimberley posted on

        thank you Emily, would you know how they will contact me now my status had changed to "they will contact me with regards to the next process" please

        thank you again

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        • Replies to Kimberley>

          Comment by Emily posted on

          Most likely email but you'll need to keep an eye on your portal. Thank you.

          Reply
  30. Comment by Sam posted on

    I am currently going through the vetting process, any idea if they ask your current and previous employers for references, cos so far only my countersignatory had been contacted

    Reply
    • Replies to Sam>

      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Sam

      We do our employment references via the HMRC process, which involves checking your declared employment details against the HMRC system to see if you are/were paying NI and Tax during the corresponding dates. If we're not able to confirm this via this route, then we'd need to approach employers for full references.

      I hope that answers your question.

      Many thanks,

      Emily

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        Comment by Sam posted on

        Thanks Emily... I’m completely satisfied with your answer...

        Reply
  31. Comment by Craig posted on

    I was wondering I've just passed my RAD and am about to begin the vetting which i know may take 10 weeks but when do you suggest people hand their notice in at their current jobs if they've got to work a months notice?

    Reply
  32. Comment by Holly posted on

    Hi Emily,

    I recently attended a RAD which I passed. I have since been put onto a reserve list as the role attracted a lot of highly qualified applicants and I was not selected for appointment.

    I presume there are hundreds of people on the reserve list so I just wondered what are the chances of been selected?

    Is it possible to re-take the RAD before the 12months?

    Thank you

    Reply
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      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Holly,

      We would always look to offer candidates on the reserve list (also known as a merit list) a job before their RAD accreditation expires after 12 months.

      For example, we could offer a permanent position at another establishment or a position on a temporary basis (2 years) via the First Deployment scheme. However, depending on the prison and the merit of other candidates, this may not always be possible and if we aren’t able to place a candidate within the 12 months, they'd have to re-apply.

      I’m afraid you wouldn't be able to re-take your RAD to ‘top-up’ the accreditation, and if it does lapse you'd need to re-apply to another job advert again.

      Reply
      • Replies to Emily>

        Comment by Siobhan posted on

        Hi Emily. I am in the same position as Holly and I have been for 2 months. I know there are vacancies at other establishments so I don't understand why I have not been contacted. Who can I speak to regarding my application?

        Reply
        • Replies to Siobhan>

          Comment by Helena posted on

          Hi Siobhan,

          Thank you for your post. Please contact the SSCL recruitment centre on 0845 241 5358 as they will be able to assist you.

          Thanks, Helena

          Reply
  33. Comment by Sonia posted on

    Hi, can you tell me when my probation period would start and finish?

    Reply
    • Replies to Sonia>

      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Sonia,

      Probation lasts for 12 months, and it starts on your first day.

      Thank you

      Emily

      Reply
  34. Comment by Rebecca posted on

    Hello,
    Do you have a current up to date list of POELT centres?

    Thanks

    Reply
    • Replies to Rebecca>

      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Rebecca

      I don't have one I'm afraid, but there are multiple POELT learning centres all across England and Wales. We place people at POELT centres based on availability, whilst also taking into consideration people's individual circumstances as much as possible. Therefore, you may or may not be placed at a POELT centre that is nearest to your home or allocated prison.

      Reply
  35. Comment by Neill posted on

    Hi I have my RAD next Thursday and I'm wondering if there are any practice papers around that I could use to test myself. Thanks

    Reply
  36. Comment by Sarah posted on

    This blog has been very informative, thank you. I'm on week 11 of my vetting to work in a YOI and my DBS certificate has arrived. Does that mean my vetting is complete? I don't like to hassle SSCL or my prison but I'd eager to get my training started. Could you offer any insight on to what stage I'm roughly at please.

    Thanks in advance!

    Reply
  37. Comment by Adam posted on

    If an establishment is really short staffed will vetting for an applicant to that said establishment be prioritised ?

    Reply
    • Replies to Adam>

      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Adam

      Thanks for your query. Yes, we do have processes in place to ensure that vetting is prioritised for establishments that are short staffed.

      Reply
  38. Comment by Bryn posted on

    Hi,

    I do volunteer work for the MoD and Army within the Army Cadet Force which is working with young people under 18 and having access to weapon systems, ammunition etc. I have passed the Security Clearence and Counter Terrorism Checks every 3 years. I’ve been told this can help speed up the vetting process. Is there any truth to this ?

    Reply
    • Replies to Bryn>

      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Bryn,

      Thank you for your question. It depends on which prison establishment you’ve applied to. If you’ve applied to a Youth Estate or a High Security (Category A) prison which requires DBS or CTC checks, then yes it can help to speed things up for those checks if you’ve already had them done. You should provide details of these checks on the pre-employment onboarding forms.

      However, we’re not able to use these in place of the standard pre-employment checks around health, employment history and criminal convictions etc. These checks would still need to be completed, and vetting on average can take around 12 weeks.

      Reply
  39. Comment by Peter posted on

    I know this has almost been answered but I have just passed all my vetting checks. And my prison is in the north east in stockton-on-tees. My rad assessment was in manchester would this be the POELT centre closest to me?

    Reply
    • Replies to Peter>

      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Peter

      Thanks for your comment. We do try to take your personal circumstances and location into account but we have to allocate people to the POELT spaces we have available. So, I'm afraid we wouldn't be able to guarantee whether or not your POELT centre will take place at the same place as your RAD centre in Manchester.

      Reply
  40. Comment by Jenny posted on

    Hi, I have been invited to RAD. I am aiming to be successful, but have a concern regarding POELT training.
    Could you tell me, that if I need to do my POELT training within travelling distance of home, this will be considered. I am concerned that if this is not the case and I am not able to stay away from home, it will jeopardise by chances, I don't want to waste anyone's time. Thank you in anticipation.

    Reply
  41. Comment by Luke Morris posted on

    Hi, I've been given a start date and my training will start on the 6/8 in newbold revel but as I live in Ware Herts where will I be put for accommodation as its a 90 minute commute otherwise.

    Thank you.

    Reply
    • Replies to Luke Morris>

      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Luke

      Thanks for your query - have you been offered accommodation? If so your accommodation will be on-site at Newbold Revel.

      Reply
  42. Comment by Paige posted on

    Hi,
    I have just received my RAD feedback and have been offered the position!

    I was wondering if you were allowed to take annual leave during the POELT as i have a holiday booked for the end of August and taking into consideration the time stated for the vetting process, i believe i would be in the process of completing the training by this time.

    Thank you!

    Reply
    • Replies to Paige>

      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Paige,

      Congratulations Paige! You'll be required to attend all of your training and so you won't be able to take annual leave once your training has started. You'll need to book your training's start date at a time that doesn't clash with your holiday. Please note the training is 12 weeks long.

      Thanks,

      Emily

      Reply
  43. Comment by Steph posted on

    Hi

    How long does it take to be booked on a POELT? I have passed all my vetting last week. Unsure when to put my notice in at my current work place.

    Thank you

    Reply
    • Replies to Steph>

      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Steph,

      We would always advise candidates not to hand in their notice with their current employer until they've received confirmation that all pre-employment checks have been completed and they've been approached to discuss a start date. We will happily work around a candidate's notice period when organising a start/training date.

      Reply
  44. Comment by Craig posted on

    I passed my RAD 1 Week ago I've as of yet heard nothing, When do I expect to hear something? Am I going through the vetting process already or will I be told when that starts?

    Reply
    • Replies to Craig>

      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Craig, have you logged into your applicant portal to find out the latest update on your status? Thanks, Emily

      Reply
  45. Comment by Kristina posted on

    Hi. I've got a question. I failed online selection test for the HMP Long Lartin. After some preparation i applied for HMP Hewell (closest to were i live) and passed. Have my RAD booked for the 27th.
    But would like to work at HMP Long Lartin as i live in Evesham. Is there any chance to transfer my application to HMP Long Lartin?
    Thanks.

    Reply
    • Replies to Kristina>

      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Kristina,

      Apologies for the delay in my response - I was finding out this information for you. In order to mirror over your RAD results for one prison to another, you'll need to have passed the online test for both establishments. Therefore, if you wish you transfer your application to Long Lartin, you'll need to apply to that prison again, pass the online test, and then ask for the RAD results of your Hewell application, should you pass, to be transferred to your Long Lartin application.

      I hope that answers your question.

      Many thanks,

      Emily

      Reply
      • Replies to Emily>

        Comment by Kristina posted on

        Hello. Thank you for getting back to me. I did re-apply for HMP Long Lartin and passed. Have my rad booked for the 9th of April. Excited much! 🙂

        Reply
      • Replies to Emily>

        Comment by Bridget posted on

        Hello,

        Im just enquiring, how long is it before you can re-apply after not being successful?

        Reply
        • Replies to Bridget>

          Comment by Emily posted on

          Hi Bridget,

          There is no time limit - you can re-apply to a new vacancy as soon as you'd like.

          Thanks,

          Emily

          Reply
  46. Comment by Lewis posted on

    I passed my RAD on the 18th of January and have filled in the health questionnaire on the OH portal - but they had issues with my email and I cannot find an option to look at my status on the applicant portal. I haven’t heard anything since 7th of February (and this was about the questionnaire). Is this normal or should I contact
    someone? Thank you!

    Reply
    • Replies to Lewis>

      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Lewis,

      If they're having issues with your emails then yes I would phone up the establishment you've applied to and ask to be put through to their People Hub to explain your situation. Hopefully someone will be able to help you from there.

      Many thanks

      Emily

      Reply
  47. Comment by Sally posted on

    Hi,
    do the service take on people over 50 ?
    Thanks

    Reply
    • Replies to Sally>

      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Sally,

      We do indeed. There is no upper age limit to apply to become a prison officer. To become a prison officer you need to be at least 18 years old.

      Thanks,

      Emily

      Reply
  48. Comment by Serena posted on

    Hi I was just wondering how often do they organise RAD's and if successful, how flexible are you with training as I have a holiday booked and if I pass the RAD I'm worried this would clash with training dates?

    Thank you

    Reply
  49. Comment by Helen posted on

    Hi Emily
    Great blog and has answered a lot of questions thank you.
    I have been provisionally accepted for a place at Hewell subject to checks. I completed everything and kept an eye on the portal, the status went from 'checks in progress' to 'checks complete' to 'passed for a decision' to 'we will be in contact shortly with the next stage' and has been like this for three weeks do you know what this could mean and is there any way that i can find out more? I have emailed and tried calling SSCL but am getting nowhere. Thanks so much Helen

    Reply
  50. Comment by Js posted on

    Good evening, the answer to my question isn’t in the above blog, hopefully you can help, it’s been 5 weeks since I’ve had confirmation of my clearance/vetting, does the process of being contacted for a training date usually take this long?
    I understand the length of the recruitment, my question is just based on the the time waiting from completed vetting to training.

    Reply
  51. Comment by Vanessa posted on

    Hi I applied in June last year and finally after a very long process, my vetting completed this week and I have been booked onto training at Newbold Revel commencing 06/08. I will be residential, I know I will be there Monday-Friday and just wanted to know if it is compulsory that you return home at the weekends. Are the rooms yours for the duration or do they get used at weekends as concerned about being able to leave belongings there and don’t want to constantly take things back and forth?

    Thank you.

    Reply
    • Replies to Vanessa>

      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Vanessa,

      Yes you are home for the weekends. If you have exceptional circumstances then we may be able to look into providing weekend accommodation but we usually only provide accommodation for the training days Monday - Friday.

      Thanks,

      Emily

      Reply
      • Replies to Emily>

        Comment by Chloe posted on

        Hi Emily,

        Continuing from this post, are you able to confirm if we are allowed to leave items in the room over the weekend?
        Also, what happens in terms of meals? Are they all provided or are we given access to cooking facilities?

        Reply
        • Replies to Chloe>

          Comment by Helena posted on

          Hi Chloe,

          You’ll need to speak to HMP Newbold Revel or the hotel, depending on where you are doing your POELT to find out if there is any storage. In terms of meals, there is a cafeteria where you can buy lunch. Accommodation should also provide basic cooking facilities but if you want to be sure for your specific residential, please speak with your mentor who you’ll meet during your first week at your allocated prison.

          Thanks, Helena

          Reply
  52. Comment by Zibi posted on

    Hi

    I have already DBS check and previous CRB . I have filled my vetting application this weekend for Erlestoke HMP. Is it possible that vetting will be quicker with DBS doneness that 12 months ago?
    Also could you let me know which are POELT centres in South West area?
    Thank you

    Reply
  53. Comment by darren posted on

    I have passed my RAD and I have been advised that the prison I applied to have no current vacancies even though on the recruitment page it still shows "apply" for this particular prison. I am now on a 12 month waiting list.

    I have been advised I can apply to other prisons but I will have to complete the online tests again even though I have completed this and the RAD previously.
    I am looking at 5 other prisons in and around where I am and this means I have to do the SJT scenario tests and maths test each time for each prison.

    My question is can the recruitment team not make this easier for candidates who have passed all the tests to easily apply to other prisons without going through all the online tests again , where in my instance I have to do this test 5 times as I was not accepted at my choice of prison.

    Reply
    • Replies to darren>

      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Darren,

      Thank you for your feedback, as it helps us to improve. I will ensure I pass it on to the relevant person.

      In the meantime, I wish you the best of luck with your applications.

      Emily

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      Comment by Siobhan posted on

      I agree. Its a very difficult process and there appears to be no one you can speak to on the phone that can help .I am in the same position.

      Reply
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        Comment by Chris posted on

        Seconded - it would be easier if you could just link your RAD results directly through your account every time you apply. I also find it confusing that I haven't been allocated a vacancy but the application window is still open. It's as if the information on the website doesn't match what's being sent to candidates.

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  54. Comment by Emily posted on

    Hi, I start my training on the 19th March. I just wondered if there will be a tv in my room at Newbold Revel?
    As I’ll be living there for 10 weeks.
    Sorry not as serious as the questions above! I have my reasons. Thanks

    Reply
    • Replies to Emily>

      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Emily,

      Yes, as far as I know there should be a TV in the room but I wouldn't be able to guarantee it. If you have a mentor at your establishment they may be able to help you if you have any concerns.

      Thanks

      Emily

      Reply
  55. Comment by Josh Clark posted on

    Hello I don’t know if you can help me but I received a request to fill out health questionnaire which I did but now I can’t log in to the account anymore and I don’t know if it’s all be sent

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    • Replies to Josh Clark>

      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Josh, I'm sorry to hear that. Have you tried phoning SSCL to see why you're not able to log into your account any more?

      Reply
  56. Comment by Gavin Jackson posted on

    Hello,

    I have been offered a job and training will commence at the end of April. I advised at my interview that I have a holiday towards the end of May. Will there be a chance to catch up on the work I miss during the week I will be away.

    Many Thanks,

    Gav

    Reply
  57. Comment by Ryan posted on

    Hi Emily.

    First I’d like to say that this thread is really helpful and informative.
    I have recently been told I’ve passed my RAD, so vetting is most probably in progress. I’m also away on a pre booked summer holiday so am concerned that my training will be held back. Will this limit my chances of employment, and are POELT courses done all year round?

    Thanks Ryan

    Reply
    • Replies to Ryan>

      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Ryan,

      Thanks for your feedback!

      Yes POELT courses are run on a continuous basis. You're not advised to take leave during your training otherwise you'll miss important information. Vetting can take on average 12 weeks to complete and so once that's completed and you're invited to book onto your POELT, I'd advise you try and avoid picking dates that clash with your holiday.

      It won't limit your chances of employment once you've received a formal offer, but it may simply just delay your start date with us.

      Reply
  58. Comment by Stefanie Coham posted on

    Hi
    I've just been given my start date for my poelt course. Are you able to tell me if there will be physical assessments aswell as written. Just so i can up my training if needs be.
    Thanks

    Reply
    • Replies to Stefanie Coham>

      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Stefanie,

      As long as you have passed your fitness test during your RAD, which you will have done, then you should be fine. There may be some physical elements in the training, but formal assessments are mostly in the form of written exercises and group work.

      Reply
  59. Comment by Damian posted on

    Hi. I recived my positive RAD results yesterday. Today I‘ve got this

    This vacancy attracted a number of highly qualified applicants and after careful consideration of all of the applications we are sorry to tell you that you have not been selected for appointment.

    However, as you were a strong candidate we would like to keep your name on a reserve list. This list will be valid for 12 months from the date of this correspondence and if another vacancy arises for the same position we will contact you.

    I know that need to wait on merit list but can I apply for other prison officer job and this still will be on the merit list? Also I didn’t recive on-line health questionnaire? I thought that should recive with my RAD results?

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    • Replies to Damian>

      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Damian,

      Yes you can apply to another prison in the meantime if you wish, and use your successful RAD results (so you don't need to take more than one RAD within 12 months).

      I'm afraid I am not sure about the online health questionnaire - have you tried phoning SSCL?

      Reply
    • Replies to Damian>

      Comment by Ryan posted on

      Hello mate. I’m in the same spot as you. Got my pass email. Logged onto my portal and had the exact message you got. I’ve applied at Lancaster Farms by the way. I phoned SSCL immediately because I was really hopeful and the message disappointed. The guy said that it’s a generic message when there is no vacancies and the one I applied for hasn’t even closed yet. So I’m hopeful that I’m currently being vetted and I’ll be recontacted when the vacancy window is closed. Fingers crossed anyway. Good luck mate.

      Reply
  60. Comment by Demi posted on

    I have successfully completed my RAD at Manchester, I was under the impression that it was a formality that I would be offered a place on the POELT, but I have now been told that it is a MERIT based system and I have to wait to see what happens and if there is an actual job. When I applied for Lancaster Farms, it didn’t say this but I have noticed the Ad has now changed. I’m unsure what to do now! Any advice?

    Reply
    • Replies to Demi>

      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Demi,

      Congratulations on passing your RAD. Yes, I'm afraid not all applicants are guaranteed an offer of employment after passing their RAD. You'll be placed on a merit list if the prison you've applied to has a high-level of competition or limited vacancies.

      The merit list orders candidates based on their performance at the RAD.

      We'll get in touch with you regarding any vacancies that open up at the prison you've applied to, and you'll remain on the merit list for 12 months after the date you passed your RAD.

      In the meantime, you could make another application to other prisons if you wish. If you pass the online test for any new application you make, you can then ask to transfer your RAD result to the new prison - you only need to successfully complete one RAD to become a prison officer (but please bear in mind the RAD results are only valid for 12 months).

      I hope that helps,

      Emily

      Reply
  61. Comment by Steph posted on

    Hello

    How long does it take to me booked on the POELT?

    Kind Regards

    Reply
    • Replies to Steph>

      Comment by Emily posted on

      You'll be able to book onto your POELT once your vetting (pre-employment checks) have been completed, and this can take around 12 weeks.

      Reply
      • Replies to Emily>

        Comment by Steph posted on

        Hiya

        Thanks for getting back to me,
        it says
        We shall be in contact with you shortly to let you know the next stage of the recruitment process.
        It will of been 3weeks when i got this messge on my portal. Can it take a while to be booked on a POELT?

        Kind Regards
        Steph

        Reply
  62. Comment by julie posted on

    Good morning....im trying to find the link to do the online test but can't find it anywhere, I've been on the Gov site but does not seem to offer a link to start it...i currently work in a prison as non operational staff but would love to be a prison officer....please help...thank you

    Reply
    • Replies to julie>

      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Julie,

      You can find the practice online test on the prison and probation jobs website: https://prisonandprobationjobs.gov.uk/tips-for-applying/

      In order to take the actual test you'll need to submit an application, which you can also do on the official prison and probation job website. You'll need to scroll down and click on 'Find a job'.

      Reply
  63. Comment by Beth Thompson posted on

    Hi, my status recently updated approximately 10 days ago to they’ll be in touch shortly to discuss the next stage. I have a 2 week holiday booked in October as I am getting married abroad, so I was hoping I could compete my training before then. I am also relocating, so need to sort accommodation, however I do have family I can stay with. I have emailed twice and had no reply as I am concerned that it doesn’t leave long to be booked on the POELT, if not it won’t be until after October. Is there any contact number? Many thanks, Beth.

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    • Replies to Beth Thompson>

      Comment by helena posted on

      Hi Beth,

      Congratulations for your wedding in October! I'm sorry to hear you haven't received any responses to your email. You'll be approached by HMPPS to arrange your start date and they'll be more than happy to take into consideration your wedding. As long as you start your 12-week training by July, you should be fine.

      Thanks, Helena

      Reply
  64. Comment by Bryn posted on

    Hi,

    I’ve passed my RAD. I have a phone appointment with Occupational Health in the 23rd for some reason, I’ve had no further communication from the Prison or NOMS. I can’t find mention of OH in the recruitment process so I’m unsure where I am with things. Was I successfull or am I on the reserve list I’ve heard about ? I’d just like clarification of where I am.

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    • Replies to Bryn>

      Comment by helena posted on

      Hi Bryn,
      Congratulations on passing the RAD! You’re currently in the pre-employment check stage. Occupational Health Assist determines your fitness for the job. You can find out more information on the candidate journey here: https://justicejobs.tal.net/vx/candidate/cms/3.%20Live%20RAD%20Candidate%20Journey

      You can also log into your applicant portal to keep up to date with your application status.

      Thank you, Helena

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      • Replies to helena>

        Comment by Bryn posted on

        Hi Helena,
        I’ve tried logging into the applicant portal but it tells me nothing beyond ‘status update’ but there is nothing there to view. I thought I’d been passed as fit for the job when I saw the nurse at my RAD.

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        • Replies to Bryn>

          Comment by Helena posted on

          Hi Bryn,

          The occupational health is actually a two part process, so you've completed the first part - seeing a screening nurse at RAD. The second part is the occupational health questionnaire.

          I hope that helps.

          Thanks, Helena

          Reply
      • Replies to helena>

        Comment by Bryn posted on

        One more question, if I’m going through pre employment as you said does that mean I have got the vacancy I applied for ?

        Reply
  65. Comment by Freya posted on

    Hi Emily,

    I am now in my 14th week of Pre Employment checks, I have phoned both the people hub of the establishment I have applied to, and SSCL, of which neither could provide me with any updates of my checks. Do you know why it could be taking so long? And once the checks are complete, how many stages are there until I will be contacted?

    Thank you!

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    • Replies to Freya>

      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Freya

      I'm sorry to hear that. One of the most common reasons that could delay the vetting process is bringing incomplete or incorrect documentation to the RAD. Do you know if this could be the reason?

      You could also perhaps get in touch with the Vetting Action Team - their details would have been provided in an email to you.

      You can find details of the next stages in the recruitment process on this candidate journey page: https://justicejobs.tal.net/vx/candidate/cms/3.%20Live%20RAD%20Candidate%20Journey

      Reply
  66. Comment by Jon posted on

    Hello 🙂 I received my clearance letter for vetting 6 weeks ago and my portal message said “we’ll be in touch shortly for the next recruitment stage” does it usually take 6 weeks or more for a POELT to be arranged?
    Thank you

    Reply
  67. Comment by Kojo M. posted on

    Goodmorning...
    First I’d like to say that this thread has really been very helpful and informative. I started the whole process last year in November and have been successful during every stage. My only concern for now is that for 5 weeks now any time i log onto my portal the message has remained the same (Your application is currently being reviewed, and we will be in contact with you shortly to let you know the outcome). I want to know which stage i am currently and for how long i still need to wait?

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  68. Comment by Damian posted on

    Hello. Today I recived letter for my online Health Questionnaire. Is this any sign?
    Second question is. I applied for another prison and I got my email to book RAD. How transfer my RAD results to this application?
    I applied to Whatton and this time I want apply to Stocken.

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    • Replies to Damian>

      Comment by Helena posted on

      Hi Damian,

      This questionnaire is part of our pre-employment checks which we undertake to ensure you are fit for the job.

      In terms of transferring your application to another prison, you’ll need to call the recruitment contact centre on 0845 241 5358 and they’ll be able to help.

      I hope that’s helpful.

      Thanks, Helena

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      • Replies to Helena>

        Comment by Damian posted on

        If I transfer my application to second prison I still will be able to get job from first prison?

        Reply
        • Replies to Damian>

          Comment by Helena posted on

          Hi Damian,

          No, if you transfer your RAD to a second prison then your application will be taken off the list for your first prison. So just make sure you have a think about what prison you'd want to work for.

          Thanks, Helena

          Reply
  69. Comment by David Stickley posted on

    Hi I’m 8 weeks into waiting for all my checks to come back my problem is I booked a holiday before I applied and it’s the last week in June till end of the first week of July. Once my checks have come back am I able to organise my training to start after my holiday. If not I must cancel it to minimise the amount of money I will lose. Thanks

    Reply
  70. Comment by Paige posted on

    Hello, I was just wondering if you could let me know how long it takes to be reimbursed for the travelling costs to the RAD? I sent off my form a few weeks ago and still haven’t received / heard anything?
    Many Thanks.

    Reply
    • Replies to Paige>

      Comment by Helena posted on

      Hi Paige,

      Please contact the prison you've applied for to find out more as it differs for each prison.

      Thanks, Helena

      Reply
  71. Comment by Pedlo posted on

    Hey, i start on the 2nd of april hmp hull and was wondering when my first pay will be, do i get paid end of the month like everyone else? Also, i have required 2 pairs of trousers just incase my uniform isnt available first day of training, am I allowed pockets or shall i sew them shut? Thank you xx

    Reply
    • Replies to Pedlo>

      Comment by Helena posted on

      Hi Pedlo,

      Congratulations on the job offer! If you've confirmed your job offer and returned the new starter details then yes you'll be paid at the end of the month.

      You should get your uniform on your first day, but if for any reason you don't there's no need to sew the pockets shut on the trousers you've got.

      Thanks, Helena

      Reply
  72. Comment by Adewale posted on

    We shall be in contact with you shortly to let you know the next stage of the recruitment process.
    When can I expect the next stage to come,Thanks .

    Reply
  73. Comment by Santa Pavlovska posted on

    Hello, I would like to find out please how would I be contacted about my security clearance results?

    Reply
  74. Comment by Helena posted on

    Hi all,

    I'm Helena - a blog post moderator here.

    Thank you all for your questions. We're really pleased to see so much conversation on this blog post! We’ve received a lot of questions, particularly on vetting, so we’ve created a new blog post to make it easier for you to find out information on vetting all in one place.

    This blog post is focused on Prison Officer Entry Level Training, so we will continue to welcome comments and conversation related to the POELT on this page. But if you have a question on vetting, please refer to this post: https://prisonjobs.blog.gov.uk/2018/03/22/prison-officer-vetting-101/

    If you have a question about anything else unrelated to POELT, please explore the rest of the blog https://prisonjobs.blog.gov.uk/ or the prison officer recruitment website https://prisonandprobationjobs.gov.uk/.

    Thank you,

    Reply
  75. Comment by Laura posted on

    Hello. I was wondering how often do the POELT courses run? Is it likely that when you’re booked onto one after vetting is complete that you’re given an almost immediate start date? Very informative page also a lot of my questions have been answered.

    Reply
  76. Comment by Katie posted on

    Hi, I am due to start at Newbold in a couple months but i'm wondering if accomodation is available on a Sunday evening. I live a few hours away so not looking forward to the drive down Monday morning if not!
    Thanks

    Reply
  77. Comment by Tom posted on

    Hi,
    I'm passed my RAD and I am hoping to get a conditional offer.
    My question is regarding vetting. What contact is made with current employers as I would be worried my current employer would let me go before a potential start date with you?
    Any guidance is appreciated.
    Thanks
    Tom

    Reply
  78. Comment by Simon posted on

    Hi,
    Once you have passed the RAD can you change what prison you would like to work at if they are recruiting?

    Thanks
    Simon

    Reply
  79. Comment by Laura posted on

    Hi I start my POELT training tomorrow but I’m unsure on the sort of clothes I should be wearing? I understand I will be given a uniform shortly after starting but what should i wear on the first day? Thanks

    Reply
    • Replies to Laura>

      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Laura

      Thanks for your question - apologies if this answer comes too late for your first day of training today, but this blog isn't monitored on bank holidays. You can wear anything you're comfortable in, as you'll be spending most of your training in your uniform, but you'd might like to also bring along something you can move around in.

      Hope that helps,

      Emily

      Reply
  80. Comment by Iain posted on

    I am already employed as an OSG with HMPPS & passed my RAD 15 Feb 2018 will this shorten the 12 week average vetting timescale? Also from Bristol, is HMP Leyhill still being used as a training centre in 2018?

    Reply
  81. Comment by Abbey posted on

    Hello,
    Last week I passed my Rad and had an email containing my pass marks. I am not quite sure what happens from here as my Moj has not updated and I have had no other email since.

    Reply
  82. Comment by Steve posted on

    Hi Emily, I applied to HMP/YOI ISIS on a merit scheme. I passed the online tests and have my RAD on 19th April. I have noticed that a few other prisons I was interested now have positions available on a pass scheme and would like to apply for them also. Is this something I can do now and use the outcome of my currently booked RAD for all applications?

    Thanks, Steve

    Reply
  83. Comment by Emily posted on

    Hi everyone,

    Thank you for all your queries. If you have questions on the POELT please post them here.

    However, if you have questions on the RAD, instead of posting here, please go to this blog post that focuses on the RAD as you may have some of your questions already answered: https://prisonjobs.blog.gov.uk/2017/12/13/how-to-prepare-for-the-rad-recruitment-assessment-day/

    Thank you

    Emily
    Blog moderator

    Reply
  84. Comment by Scott posted on

    Hi , ive recently been offered a place at HMP Haverigg and im in the process of ordering my uniform. Is there somewhere i can view the uniform? As there are multiple options such as fleece or jumper and it would be helpful to view them before ordering.

    Reply
    • Replies to Scott>

      Comment by Helena posted on

      Hi Scott,

      Congratulations on your job offer! Unfortunately there isn’t a place to view the uniform beforehand but if you take a look at the videos on our prison and probation jobs website, you’ll be able to see footage of prison officers in uniform, including jackets and jumpers: https://prisonandprobationjobs.gov.uk/.

      Thanks, Helena

      Reply
  85. Comment by Ethan Easthope posted on

    Hello , I currently awaiting for my Vetting to be completed, however I am fearful that my training may be during a holiday I booked and paid for a year previously... would I still be able to attend my holiday and then continue my training ?
    Thanks
    Ethan

    Reply
  86. Comment by James posted on

    Hello,

    My application update has been referred for decision. Does that mean I am or may not get a job offer soon or are there more checks to complete after this?

    Thank you in advance for your help.

    Reply
    • Replies to James>

      Comment by Helena posted on

      Hi James,

      I’m afraid we don’t hold this information, please keep an eye on your applicant portal and emails to receive an update from HMPPS.

      Thanks, Helena

      Reply
  87. Comment by Zibi posted on

    Hi

    I have logged to my account and there is a message
    We shall be in contact with you shortly to let you know the next stage of the recruitment process.
    Is that mean that all checks are complete and should receive phone call soon or it's better to call vetting team and find out?

    Thank you

    Zibi

    Reply
    • Replies to Zibi>

      Comment by Helena posted on

      Hi Zibi,

      You’ll be able to tell if you’ve passed vetting by logging into the online applicant portal and seeing if your status has been updated to say that your pre-employment checks have successfully completed. You can only phone the vetting team if you have concerns about your status if you’ve been in the vetting period for more than 6 weeks.

      Thanks, Helena

      Reply
      • Replies to Helena>

        Comment by Zibi posted on

        Hi Helena

        This blog is truly amazing and full of proper informations to any new person. I received a phone call today with date for course in October which is great. I can start in my establishment up to 8 weeks before so I will start from September which will help with holiday plans and my current job.
        I decided to go for POELT in Exeter and I will be able to travel. I have a question regarding travel...my establishment is about 30miles from my house but training will be 60miles. Is it anything in policy which will inform me about travel pay if distance is twice long than from home to establishment? If it is ...what is a rate used for calculations?

        Thank you

        Zibi

        Reply
        • Replies to Zibi>

          Comment by Helena posted on

          Hi Zibi,

          Thank you for your lovely feedback. Please refer to the prison you’ve applied to as they’ll be able to provide further details on claiming expenses as it differs for each prison.

          Thanks, Helena

          Reply
  88. Comment by Maxwell osawe posted on

    Hi
    Please I am a retail security officer at a moment and I will love to be a prison officer, please is there any exams or course you need to take and pass first before applying for the 10 weeks training course or I can apply for the 10 weeks training course straight away. Thanks

    Reply
  89. Comment by Katie Cook posted on

    Hi can you tell me if there are any training centres in the north east please
    Thank you

    Reply
    • Replies to Katie Cook>

      Comment by Helena posted on

      Hi Katie,

      There are multiple POELT learning centres all across England and Wales. We place people at POELT centres based on availability, whilst also taking into consideration people's individual circumstances as much as possible. Therefore, you may or may not be placed at a POELT centre that is nearest to your home or allocated prison.

      Thanks, Helena

      Reply
  90. Comment by Thim posted on

    Hi, are travel expenses paid while on poelt and is this routine procedure ... I.e. does everybody claim travel? Thanks

    Reply
    • Replies to Thim>

      Comment by Helena posted on

      Hi Thim,

      Please refer to the prison you’ve applied to, they’ll be able to provide you with further details on claiming expenses as it differs for each prison.

      Thanks, Helena

      Reply
  91. Comment by Georgie posted on

    Good afternoon,

    I have passed my RAD and now currently going through vetting. (received conditional offer)
    Is it possible to change prisons at this point?

    Many thanks

    Reply
    • Replies to Georgie>

      Comment by Helena posted on

      Hi Georgie,

      Congrats on passing your RAD! You can transfer your RAD accreditation as long as you’ve passed the online test of the other prison you’re interested in. To transfer your RAD you’ll need to call the recruitment contact centre on 0845 241 5358 and they’ll be able to help you.

      Thanks, Helena

      Reply
  92. Comment by Daniel posted on

    Good evening, I want to know if the vetting process can be shorter than 12 weeks. Thanks you for help

    Reply
  93. Comment by Scott posted on

    Hi there

    Just out of interest, the job was advertised at £26,950.
    However the starting salary is £22,692. I understand that's probably based on 37 hours and the advert was advertised as 39 ( including allowances ) What are the allowances? and how comes the difference?

    Also, very random, i will be training away from home and staying in the provided accommodation. I like to plan my finances, so out of interest is there an allowance for food whilst away. Thank you 🙂

    Reply
    • Replies to Scott>

      Comment by Helena posted on

      Hi Scott,

      Thanks for your question. Yes you’re correct: the job advert is based on someone choosing to work a 39 hour week, which is what most prison officers work. The standard contracted hours for new starters is 37 hours per week during the POELT. There’s the option to increase your hours once you’ve passed your 12-week POELT.

      The extra salary allowances vary from prison to prison (such as London having a London-allowance). Therefore, I would recommend finding out the Terms and Conditions of your contract once you’ve been offered a role.

      Thanks, Helena

      Reply
      • Replies to Helena>

        Comment by Scott posted on

        Thank you for your help 🙂 Much appreciated

        Reply
  94. Comment by Jacob posted on

    Just have a few questions regarding newbold revel; will be starting training there on 28th of may. I will be staying there due to being from Kent. Does the room have a fridge, is there any cooking facilities as I want to make my own food. Where is the nearest supermarket and also the main one a gym, lastly due to it stating it's Monday to Friday I take it I travel back up on the Monday morning? Thanks in advance 🙂

    Reply
    • Replies to Jacob>

      Comment by Helena posted on

      Hi Jacob,

      Best of luck for your POELT! Yes, you travel back home on Fridays and travel back in on Mondays to attend your training.

      In terms of your other questions, I’m afraid I don’t hold this information. If you have a mentor at your establishment they may be able to help you if you have any concerns.

      Thanks, Helena

      Reply
      • Replies to Helena>

        Comment by Jacob posted on

        Hi Helena,

        Thank you!! And thanks for the quick response 🙂

        Regards

        Reply
  95. Comment by Chris posted on

    Hi .. I've seen lots of comments relating to RAD passes and allocation of vacancies, just curious as to how often these actually come up and the guidance on here the website says that if by the end of the 12months you don't get allocated one within your chosen locations you may be contacted about alternatives. When I spoke to SSCL they told me that wasn't the case and that you'd just lapse and have to reapply? Just conscious that the extra 2500 officers by the end of 2018 and how likely I am to fall into that category after passing my RAD.

    Reply
    • Replies to Chris>

      Comment by Helena posted on

      Hi Chris,

      As per this blog post https://prisonjobs.blog.gov.uk/2018/03/22/prison-officer-vetting-101/, the merit list will remain open for 12 months from the date you passed your RAD. After this you’ll no longer be considered for a vacancy. If we’re unable to offer you a position at the establishment you’ve applied for by the end of this 12 month period, we may be able to offer you one at another establishment without a merit list and subject to available vacancies.

      Thanks, Helena

      Reply
  96. Comment by Francesca posted on

    Hi what level of checks are done for a category C prison? Like dbs, ctc etc...

    If there are less checks for cat c would it be a quicker process

    Reply
    • Replies to Francesca>

      Comment by Helena posted on

      Hi Francesca,

      The level of checks are the same throughout the prison estate, it doesn’t depend on the category. Vetting may take a shorter period of time if you already recently have had pre-employment checks completed, or if you’ve applied to a prison that’s short staffed and vetting is prioritised.

      Thanks, Helena

      Reply
  97. Comment by Saskia posted on

    Hello,

    I have been offered a verbal offer of employment and confirmed a start date. I was just wondering if this is final before I hand my notice in at my current job and also when do I need to order my uniform if i need to at all? I have had an email confirming the induction date and my POELT date but doesn’t mention anything of what I should wear and I don’t want to go in the wrong thing. Thanks.

    Reply
    • Replies to Saskia>

      Comment by Helena posted on

      Hi Saskia,

      Yes, this is normally the final step before handing in your notice as you’ve confirmed your start date. We’ll happily work around your notice period when organising your training date.

      You’ll receive an email prior to starting your POELT allowing you to order your uniform.

      Thanks, Helena

      Reply
      • Replies to Helena>

        Comment by Saskia posted on

        My training doesn’t start till end of July so i’ve got plenty of time to hand it in, thanks for your help!

        Reply
  98. Comment by E HATTON posted on

    Once 12 month probation is complete so you get pay rise or stay in same rate? What is rate for 37 hours please

    Reply
    • Replies to E HATTON>

      Comment by Helena posted on

      Hi,

      Your salary depends on the prison you’ve applied to and the location the prison is in, so I’m afraid I can’t give you the rate for a 37 hours contact. Your salary will remain the same after your probation is complete but you can opt for a 39 or 41 hours contract after you’ve finished POELT. You can also earn more if overtime is available at your prison.

      Please take a look at this link to see the full salary for each prison - https://prisonandprobationjobs.gov.uk/prison-officer/rewards-and-benefits/

      Thanks, Helena

      Reply
  99. Comment by Michael posted on

    Hi I have applied at HMP Nottingham can you please tell me where my closest Training centre is from nottingham,
    Many thanks

    Reply
  100. Comment by Rich posted on

    Hi,

    I start my POELT course in October, spending the first week at my chosen Prison. In my first week at my prison I get my uniform which consists of 5 shirts. I asked my prison HR where I could buy more but they couldnt help as they said their uniform comes straight from China, any tips as to where to buy more white prison officer shirts please?!

    Reply
    • Replies to Rich>

      Comment by Helena posted on

      Hi Rich,

      When you arrive for your POELT training, you’ll be assigned a mentor who’s a current prison officer - they should be able to help you with queries like this.

      Thanks, Helena

      Reply
  101. Comment by Grant posted on

    Hello, I’m currently going through the vetting stage for hmp Woodhill. How stricked are they on this because with my address history I can’t remeber the exact date/ month I moved etc.. could they fail my application if I’m a month or 2 out??

    Thanks in advance

    Reply
    • Replies to Grant>

      Comment by Helena posted on

      Hi Grant,

      No you won’t fail if you’re just slightly out, but please do try and be as close as possible if you can.

      Thanks, Helena

      Reply
  102. Comment by chris posted on

    hi if somebody has been allocated a training course at Norwich do they get some sort of accommodation provided Monday to Friday.
    And, is the training course free as somebody mentioned that you have to pay.
    Thank you.

    Reply
  103. Comment by Scott posted on

    Hello

    I'm ex royal airforce and ex civi firefighter (red arrows)

    I have RAD coming up but I have a general question regarding tattoos.

    I have 1 on my face above left eye.
    Also neck and hands.

    Should I attend or will I be wasting my time?

    Thank you in advance

    Reply
    • Replies to Scott>

      Comment by Helena posted on

      Hi Scott,

      Yes, in order to progress your application you should still attend your RAD. As long as your tattoos are not deemed as offensive in any way we’re not too strict on this.

      Thanks, Helena

      Reply
  104. Comment by Naveed posted on

    Thank You Helena and Emily for the invaluable information on here and I wish everyone the very best in their respective applications.

    My question is that I’m around that 12 weeks mark and only just last week received my DBS. Now I rang Wetherby (place I’ve applied for) and they told me only SSCL deal with matters related to vetting.

    Now first lady I spoke with informed me that I need to get my DBS stamped by a local organisation and then send it off to them. I was unsure so decided for peace of mind more than anything to ring again and this time another lady told me that I simply post my DBS off to SSCL.

    If I wasn’t confused I certainly am now so would really appreciate if one you could please clear this up. Furthermore, if you could also provide me the address and I would be very grateful.

    Kind Regards

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    • Replies to Naveed>

      Comment by Helena posted on

      Hi Naveed,

      You’ll receive an email from SSCL which will clarify what action you need to take. If you’ve passed then you won’t have to do anything as they’ll pick it up from their side. If you haven’t, you’ll need to present your DBS to the prison you’ve applied to. All of this will be explained in an email depending on the outcome of your checks.

      Thanks, Helena

      Reply
  105. Comment by Norbert posted on

    Hi Helena how i can aplay for prison officer?

    Reply
  106. Comment by Nic posted on

    If you find you struggle in the POELT and want to quit before the job starts do you have to pay fees back? What if you’ve completed the diploma and start work and find it too much are you signed into a minimum contract?

    Reply
    • Replies to Nic>

      Comment by Helena posted on

      Hi Nic,

      As per this blog post, we would prefer to work with someone to help them overcome any challenges they may face rather than leave the course or their role. If you do decide its not for you then there are no fees to repay and no minimum contract periods (except for your notice period).

      Thanks, Helena

      Reply
  107. Comment by Misaj posted on

    My application is at the vetting stage but when I check today it shows ..
    Your application is currently going through pre-employment checks and has been referred for a decision..

    Reply
  108. Comment by Chloe posted on

    How far away do you expect someone to commute for the POELT training and at what point specifically do you offer weekday accommodation (e.g. anything over x amount of miles or x amount of minutes away)?

    Reply
    • Replies to Chloe>

      Comment by Helena posted on

      Hi Chloe,

      Please contact the prison you’ve applied to as this differs for each prison.

      Thanks, Helena

      Reply
  109. Comment by Louise posted on

    Hello I am due to start my training on Monday but have just found out I am pregnant, would this mean that I would have to stop doing the training and start after baby or could I continue as I am?

    Reply
    • Replies to Louise>

      Comment by Helena posted on

      Hi Louise,

      Congratulations!

      No, you can continue as you are however you won’t be able to undertake the ‘control and restraint’ (C&R) element of the POELT training, you’ll need to go back to college to complete this once you’ve given birth. Once you’re at your establishment after your POELT training you’ll be placed on restrictive duties until you’ve given birth as you need to complete the C & R element to take up full officer duties.

      I hope that’s helpful.

      Thanks, Helena

      Reply
  110. Comment by Kingsley posted on

    Hi. These posts have been great to read while waiting for my start date which was confirmed yesterday! One question I've not seen ask is around mens hair styles. I currently have long hair which is all tied back. Is this acceptable for my new role or does the prison service require I cut to a certain length? No problem if so just wanted to know prior to training. One other question, are officers allowed to wear fitness watches while on shift? Fitbit style? Thanks again for all the previous replies.

    Reply
    • Replies to Kingsley>

      Comment by Helena posted on

      Hi Kingsley,

      Thank you for your feedback.

      Yes, long hair is acceptable, we’d advise you to tie it back at times just from a health and safety point of view. In terms of fitness watches, please ask your POELT Mentor - they'll be able to help you.

      Thanks, Helena

      Reply
  111. Comment by Jake Sercombe posted on

    hi ive just been given a start date at Hmp ranby im just wondering whilst on the poelt what the uniform code is do you wear your own clothes or are you provided with the uniform on your one week induction at the prison thanks alot

    Reply
  112. Comment by Rebecca posted on

    Hi,

    I was just wondering what happens at the end of the 12 week training programme, I have heard that there is some kind of 'passing out' .. Is this still the case?

    Thanks

    Reply
    • Replies to Rebecca>

      Comment by Helena posted on

      Hi Rebecca,

      There used to be a formal ceremony but this doesn’t happen anymore. Some prisons have made local arrangements for officers who have just completed their POELT, but this isn’t the case for all prisons.

      Thanks, Helena

      Reply
  113. Comment by Naveed posted on

    Hi again

    If I was to take out a car contract would I receive any help from my allocated prison in terms of fuel?

    Reply
    • Replies to Naveed>

      Comment by Helena posted on

      Hi Naveed,

      Please contact the prison you’ve applied to as they’ll be able to give you this information.

      Thanks, Helena

      Reply
  114. Comment by Mark Johnson posted on

    Hi i have been given a training start date of 12/11/18 at Aylesbury, can you tell me the times we will attend.

    Also i am working 8 weeks at my chosen prison (The Mount) before i start my training starting on 10th september. Will this be on a Rota? Or Monday to Friday. Can’t wait to get started. Thanks in advance for any info

    Reply
    • Replies to Mark Johnson>

      Comment by Helena posted on

      Hi Mark,

      Great to hear you can’t wait to get started. This information you’ve asked for will be provided to you in due course, as part of your contract.

      However, the POELT course typically runs Monday to Friday.

      Thanks, Helena

      Reply
  115. Comment by Scott posted on

    I've received a operational health questionnaire is this normal for all applicants?

    Thanks

    Reply
    • Replies to Scott>

      Comment by Helena posted on

      Hi Scott,

      Yes, all candidates are given an occupational health questionnaire to ensure you’re fit for the job.

      Thanks, Helena

      Reply
  116. Comment by Carmen posted on

    Hi i’ve just been given my POELT start date in October but also have been offered to do 8weeks in my chosen prison as an OSG do you know if the role is fully payed as POELT training is and also do we get travel expenses to commute for POELT training ?
    Thank you

    Reply
    • Replies to Carmen>

      Comment by Helena posted on

      Hi Carmen,

      Yes, you’ll be fully paid throughout your POELT training. For claiming expenses, please call the prison you’ve applied to as it differs for each establishment.

      Thanks, Helena

      Reply
  117. Comment by Richard posted on

    Hi Helena

    I passed my RAD assessment, but due to the skill set of other applicants I m on a reserve list for the next position? I ve since seen a job advert this month for the prison I ve applied for? What would you suggest in this instance.

    Thanks

    Reply
  118. Comment by Lauren posted on

    Hi, I'm currently waiting to do my RAD, but I'm concerned that if I pass it I will have to stay away from home. My question is, because I'm a single mum are there any facilities such as a nursery while I am doing my training?
    Thank you.

    Reply
    • Replies to Lauren>

      Comment by Helena posted on

      Hi Lauren,

      I’m afraid there is no nursery facility available during the Prison Officer Entry Level Training.

      The location of your training depends on availability. So, usually, if someone is placed at a training centre that’s far away from home and also offers accommodation, then they can stay on-site Monday to Friday.
      However, we always try to take your personal circumstances into consideration, so if you’re offered a position and when you’re booking your training, please ensure you let HMPPS know that you’d prefer to do your training whilst living at home.

      Thanks, Helena

      Reply
  119. Comment by Alistair posted on

    Hello
    I attended my RAD on 30th Jan 2018 and the following day received an email that I passed (successful on both the adult and young person specific assessments) I completed an online health questionnaire the same day.

    On 1st June it will be exactly 4 months it will be exactly 4 months since I was notified I passed the RAD. Since then I have heard absolutely nothing.

    Is this normal ?
    Thank you

    Reply
    • Replies to Alistair>

      Comment by Helena posted on

      Hi Alistair,

      Please contact the SSCL Recruitment Centre on 0845 241 5358, they should be able to help you.

      Thanks, Helena

      Reply
  120. Comment by Josh posted on

    Hi, I was just wondering if being sacked from a previous job would have an affect on my chances of becoming a prison officer

    Reply
    • Replies to Josh>

      Comment by Helena posted on

      Hi Josh,

      I’m afraid we’re unable to advise on this, as your chances of becoming a prison officer relies entirely on your application. You’ll be assessed on things including (but not limited to) your online tests, your performance at the Recruitment Assessment Day and sufficient references.

      Thanks, Helena

      Reply
  121. Comment by Mat posted on

    Hi there,
    I am going to my RAD tomorrow but with regards to vetting, I have recently had my vetting completed through my local constabulary, will this be transferable or will I need to go through the process again? (Was for a temporary position)
    Many thanks

    Reply
    • Replies to Mat>

      Comment by Helena posted on

      Hi Mat,

      I’m afraid this won’t be transferable. We’re unable to use these external checks in place of the standard pre-employment checks that you need to undergo to become a prison officer.

      Thanks, Helena

      Reply
  122. Comment by Scott posted on

    Is the uniform different for HMYOI then the HMP uniform?

    What stage do you order it and how?

    Reply
    • Replies to Scott>

      Comment by Helena posted on

      Hi Scott,

      HMYOI staff wear blue polo shirts and black trousers whereas HMP staff wear white shirts with black trousers. You can see the difference of uniform in the images on the prisons and probation website - https://prisonandprobationjobs.gov.uk

      You can order your uniform once HMPPS have offered you a position as they’ll send you all the information you need to know including how to order your uniform.

      Thanks, Helena

      Reply
  123. Comment by Ryan posted on

    Hi, I know you have stated that there are many courses running across England and Wales but would you know if any courses run in the North West as I am from Liverpool and have some commitments at home that could pose an issue if I was to stay away mon-fri.
    Thank you in advance for your reply

    Reply
  124. Comment by Belen Castro posted on

    Hi

    Thank you so much for your answers they are all brilliant.

    I start my training in September and it is quite far from where I live. - I know I have read that accommodation is provided Mon-Fri and we can go home during the weekend. Are there any chances of being accommodated during the weekend ? I would not want to travel up and down every weekend, I would rather prefer to stay for the 10 weeks.

    Thank you !I am so excited !

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      Comment by Helena posted on

      Hi Belen,

      Great to hear you are excited! You’ll get your uniform on your first day of your POELT training at the prison but I’m afraid you won’t be able to stay in the provided accommodation over the weekend.

      Thanks, Helena

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  125. Comment by Belen Castro posted on

    Hi ,

    Another question that just came to my head, are we expected to have our uniforms ready for our starting day ?

    If so , how would this be done ?

    Thank you in advance.

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  126. Comment by colm posted on

    Could you please tell what age group would be preferable when applying, if any ?

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  127. Comment by Gary posted on

    Hi

    I've just had a confirmation email that I have passed my RAD.

    I was just wondering whats the normal timescale before hearing about any potential job offers and the vetting process.

    Thanks

    Reply
  128. Comment by Nigel posted on

    Hi there,
    I'm sorry if this topic has already been answered and I've missed it in amongst all of the great answers and insights you folks have given me.
    I passed the RAD and was offered a conditional position subject to vetting, to which I accepted. Up until last week my portal page said "undergoing pre employment checks" and then that went and was replaced with "We shall be in contact with you shortly to let you know the next stage of the recruitment process."
    My question is this....Is it safe to assume that vetting has been cleared and now all I can do is await the call/email?
    Other people have said that if vetting had failed, then the portal page would contain a different update.

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      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Nigel,

      Yes, please do continue to wait for an update on your application by keeping an eye on your emails and applicant portal.

      Thanks,

      Emily

      Reply
  129. Comment by Ben posted on

    Hi,
    I've been offered a place at my chosen prison and my vetting started to take place last week. However, I have two holidays booked that are fully paid for. one of which is 9 weeks away and the other 15 weeks. Would anyone know what are the chances of my POELT starting before this and if so do they use any discretion or would I be expected to miss my holiday?
    thanks

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  130. Comment by Lee posted on

    Hi

    Ive read above that vetting can take 12 weeks is that still the case? Ive applied at HMP Bedford and I understand they are short staffed at the moment. I have my rad in 2 weeks. Im just curious on the 12 week on average for vetting to be completed? Also i have been sent a uniform document. At what stage do I fill this in? I assume after passing my RAD? Everything has happened so fast for me, I applied less than 2 weeks ago. Ive visited the prison and could of done the rad this week! So fingers crossed I pass, I am excited about the role.

    This forum is amazing also by the way. Lots of great questions and answers.

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  131. Comment by Natalie posted on

    Hi,
    ive been given my start date for the POELT, but have been told im not eligible for residential as i only live 17 minutes away from the college, but i actually live 45 miles away. Would i be reconsidered for residential or will i have to commute everyday? And if i have to commute would i be reimbersed for travel expenses? Thanks

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      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Natalie

      Please get back in touch with the prison you've applied to as we don't hold this information. Yes, you can claim back expenses but the process depends on each prison so please do ask them about this as well.

      Thanks

      Emily

      Reply
  132. Comment by Richard posted on

    Hi, I have read that we are expected to work bank holidays. My question is does this also apply to Christmas and New year period. I live in Norwich and training starts at newbold in November (which is a serious commute : ) ). Thanks in advance.

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      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi

      Yes it applies to all bank holidays as the role is operational and prisons need to be staffed even at Christmas.

      Reply
  133. Comment by James posted on

    Hi i start my training in July and i have my brothers wedding in august is there a chance i can attend his wedding as im also best man, it is on a Monday he gets married.

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  134. Comment by Mark posted on

    Hi, I start my training at Newbold in November and wondered if there is a gym onsite ?

    Many thanks

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      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Mark,

      Yes there is a free gym at Newbold Revel which the trainees can use.

      Thanks,

      Emily

      Reply
  135. Comment by Michaela posted on

    Hi,

    I have read a comment above in regards to training at a centre that is further away than usual and that accommodation is provided. I have been given my start date and told accommodation is not provided even though the centre I will be based at for 10 weeks is an hour and half-2 hours away. So do I get accomodation or do I have to sort that myself? Thank You

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      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Michaela,

      HMPPS try to take everyone' situation into account when arranging their POELT centre locations but it is very dependent on availability. Also, not all POELT training centres offer accommodation, so you'd either have to commute or find your own accommodation.

      If this is difficult, please get back in touch with HMPPS to discuss your options on where to do your POELT.

      Thanks,

      Emily

      Reply
  136. Comment by Daniel posted on

    Hi, I’m currently 17, but turning 18 in January, I wondered if I could start the process now as the question asks ‘will you be 18 by the time you start?’, which I will be because I believe the list is 12 months? Thank you in advance.

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      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Daniel

      The list you mention is actually most likely the 'merit' list (or in other words, a waiting list) for jobs if a prison has been oversubscribed to. So, it's not guaranteed that it'd take 12 months before starting the job. However, the recruitment process can take around 9 months on average from start to finish, so if you're successful, there's still the possibility that you'd be 18 by the time the job starts.

      I hope that helps,

      Emily

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  137. Comment by Debi posted on

    Hi

    I sent in my uniform order a few days ago and haven’t heard anything. How long will it take to hear back? I’ve just started the vetting a week ago. I’m worried I won’t get a uniform as the Hub haven’t replied

    Debi

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      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Debi

      You would usually pick up your uniform on your first day of the job. Please continue to keep an eye out on your emails for any information.

      Thanks

      Emily

      Reply
  138. Comment by Nemesia posted on

    Hiya,

    I wonder if you can help. I recently passed my RAD for belmarsh prison and have since been put on the merit list. I have also filled out the occupational health questionnaire. My online status hasn't changed at all thoughout the process it just says 'update' online. My question is what part of the application process am I currently at? And is there a way to know how long I will be on the merit list for? Or does it mean that because I've been sent to OH questionnaire it will be sooner rather than later that I might be offered a vacancy? Is there someone I can email or talk to to discuss this further?

    Thankyou in advance

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      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Nemesia

      Please refer to our blog post on vetting, under 'What is the merit list?' as this should help with most of your queries: https://prisonjobs.blog.gov.uk/2018/03/22/prison-officer-vetting-101/

      There is no way to know how long you'll be on the merit list for as it depends on when a vacancy arises at the prison you've applied to. But you'll be on it for a maximum of 12 months, as per the blog post.

      Everyone is asked to fill out the OH questionnaire just to ensure that you're fit enough for the role.

      Thanks,
      Emily

      Reply
  139. Comment by Sam posted on

    Hi I've recently completed vetting and now my application says I've received a verbal offer and need to respond, however I haven't actually spoken with anyone, and I am concerned this may be time limited? I have tried phoning numerous times on a number i reveived in an email but nobody is getting back to me. Is it usual for there to be a delay? Is there anyone else I can try? I'm aware the next step is to get a start date for POELT so could a lack of places cause a delay?
    Thanks
    Sam

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      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Sam

      Sorry to hear that - have you tried phoning the prison you've applied to directly? If not, please do so and ask for the People Hub.

      Thanks

      Emily

      Reply
  140. Comment by Jan Owen posted on

    Hi,

    I recently passed an assessment day was told I would receive an email from Oh assist fairly quickly. I've now been waiting about two weeks for it, when it was implied I would receive one almost straight away. Can you give me any information on how long it will usually take for someone to receive one of the these email. As it has been emphasized that its important I send it back quickly.

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      Comment by Emily posted on

      Hi Jan

      I'm afraid we don't have any information on how long it'll take, but please don't worry - as soon as you receive the form please send it back as soon as you can to avoid delays with your application.

      Thanks

      Emily

      Reply
  141. Comment by carl posted on

    what personal equipment are prison officers issued with to protect and restrain ?

    does it vary from prison to prison or category?

    I'm waiting to start training for a job at hmp ranby but I am a little cautious not knowing this info.

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      Comment by Helena posted on

      Hi Carl,

      Thanks for your query this information will be provided to you at your POELT. If you’ve got any questions or worries please talk to your POELT mentor once you’ve been assigned one.

      Thanks, Helena

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  142. Comment by Mark posted on

    Hi all,

    Who else is on the November POELT course at Newbold ?
    I’m traveling from the island so will be residential. Be good to start getting to know people before we attend 🙂

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  143. Comment by Chanel posted on

    When a vacancy comes up, do people on the merit list take priority over new applicants?

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      Comment by Helena posted on

      Hi Chanel,

      Yes, once the campaign is closed and all candidates have done their assessments, people on the merit list will take priority when a new vacancy comes up. New applicants won’t be able to apply for those vacancies until the campaign is re-launched in the future.

      Thanks, Helena

      Reply
  144. Comment by Brooke posted on

    Hi

    I’m wondering how do you apply to do the POELT training, I have just recently turned 18.
    Thanks
    Brooke

    Reply

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