This blog provides potential applicants to the prison service with real-life stories from prison staff, and useful information on the recruitment process.
We’re incredibly pleased that within the first few months of the blog’s launch, we’ve received over 150 comments. However, this also showed us that there’s a need to answer some commonly asked questions, mostly around vetting.
HMPPS pre-employment checks (vetting) on average can take around 12 weeks to complete. We know that’s not short, and many applicants have a lot of questions about what happens in the meantime.
Therefore, this blog post will contain all the information we’re able to provide on vetting in one place. We may update this blog post depending on how many further queries we receive on vetting.
How long does vetting take?
Due to the extensive nature of security and pre-employment checks we need to make for someone to become a prison officer, vetting can take on average 12 weeks to complete.
We do have processes in place to ensure that vetting is prioritised for prisons that are short staffed. So, vetting for those prisons may take less than 12 weeks as long there are no other delays (more information on possible delays below).
When does vetting start?
Vetting starts after you’ve:
- passed your Recruitment Assessment Day (RAD) and provided your correct identity documents
- been given a provisional offer of employment (as opposed to being held on a merit list)
- accepted your provisional offer of employment
- submitted your online pre-employment onboarding forms
What is the 'merit list'?
It’s effectively a waiting list for a job vacancy. You may be placed on a merit list (also known as a reserve list) if the prison you've applied to has a high-level of competition or limited vacancies. The list is ordered based on performance at the RAD. So, you may not be guaranteed an offer even if you've passed your RAD, and vetting won’t take place until you’ve been offered a job (as detailed above).
You’ll remain on the merit list for up to 12 months after the date you passed your RAD, as this is how long your RAD accreditation lasts. It’s worth bearing in mind that you only need to have been offered a job within those 12 months before your accreditation expires - you don’t need to actually be in post.
How can I avoid delays with vetting?
1) Bring the correct and complete documents with you to your RAD
Incomplete or incorrect documentation is a common cause that delays vetting, so make sure you follow the documentation instructions carefully.
If you don’t bring your correct or complete documents to the RAD, your application won’t automatically progress onto the vetting stage and instead you’ll need to bring your documents into the prison you’ve applied to and get them validated, which naturally causes delays.
You’ll receive email and text communications 48 hours prior to your RAD to remind you what documents you need to bring. You’ll also be sent a copy of the Pre-employment Screening Guidance.
2) Complete your documentation correctly and as soon as possible
When you’re requested for information, make sure you respond as quickly as possible. The sooner you correctly complete your forms, the sooner the vetting team can start the pre-employment checks.
3) Get in touch with the Vetting Action Team
If you’re unsure about what documents are acceptable or have any other questions, the Vetting Action Team will be able to help - their details will be provided in an email to you.
What happens after vetting?
Once your pre-employment checks have been completed, you’ll be contacted by a member of the HMPPS recruitment team with a verbal offer of employment which you’ll need to either accept or decline verbally. They’ll agree your start date with you and book you onto your Prison Officer Entry Level Training.
You’ll then receive your formal written offer of employment, containing you contract and terms and conditions, which you can then accept online.
How do I tell when I've passed vetting?
You'll be able to tell if you've passed vetting by logging into your online applicant portal and seeing if your status has been updated to say that pre-employment checks have been successfully completed.
I'm worried about how long it's taking for my vetting to complete. Who can I talk to?
As mentioned, vetting can take around 12 weeks to complete so don’t be too worried if you’re approaching this timescale as this is normal.
However, if you’ve been waiting longer than this time you can get in touch with the Vetting Contact Point (VCP) at the prison you’ve been allocated to. You need to ring through the main prison number and ask to be put through to the VCP, or alternatively the People Hub.
However, it’s important to note that you can only request an update if you’ve been in pre-employment checks for more than 6 weeks. If you phone earlier, they won’t be able to provide you with an update.
I already have Security Clearance from my current/previous job. Will this help to speed up the vetting process?
This depends on which prison establishment you’ve applied to. If you’ve applied to a Youth Estate or a High Security (Category A) prison which requires a Counter Terrorist Check (CTC) or Disclosure and Barring Service (DBS) checks, then yes it can help to speed things up for those checks if you’ve already had them done.
You should provide details of these checks on the pre-employment onboarding forms.
However, we’re not able to use these in place of the standard pre-employment checks around health, employment history and criminal convictions etc. These checks would still need to be completed, and vetting on average can take around 12 weeks.
Do you contact my existing or previous employers for references during vetting?
We don’t necessarily need to contact your existing or previous employers for references during the vetting process. Our employment references are done via the HMRC process, which involves checking your declared employment details against the HMRC system to see if you are/were paying NI and tax during the corresponding dates in your employment history.
If we're not able to confirm this via this route, we would then approach your existing/previous employers for full references.
When should I resign from my current job?
We always recommend you don’t hand in your notice with your current employer until you’ve received confirmation that all pre-employment checks have been completed and you’ve been approached to discuss a start date. We will happily work around a candidate's notice period when organising a start/training date.
If you have more queries about the stages in the recruitment process, you can find a summary of the candidate journey on the Prison Officer Recruitment Portal.
You can also find out more information on the prison and probation jobs website.
340 comments
Comment by Callum posted on
Hello there,
What if you move/ want to move during the vetting process?
Additionally, will starting a new (temporary) job have any impact on the vetting process?
Thank you.
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Callum,
If you’re moving jobs or house you’ll need to provide the vetting contact point (VCP) with your up-to-date details, including your ID and address documents, so that they can be verified. To get in touch with the VCP, please call the prison you’ve applied to and ask to be put through to the VCP or People Hub.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Damian posted on
Hello. Which prison can give me job first? There is two prisons. One is who have merit list campaign. Secound This is a PASS CAMPAIGN for prison officers.
I am on merit list for this first prison. Can I apply for this secound and I will pass another RAD. Is this keep me on the list for first prison and give me chance get quicker job in secound?
Comment by Emily posted on
Hi Damian,
You are able to apply to as many prisons as you like, but you can only take forward one application. For example, if you are given an offer for multiple prisons you will need to choose one prison and reject the others.
In your instance, as you're on the merit list for one prison, you're still able to apply to others and if you pass the online test for each prison you've applied to, you'll be able to transfer your existing RAD accreditation if you wish (you only need to take one RAD) to the new application.
Please contact the Recruitment Contact Centre on 0845 241 5358 to discuss your application further.
Comment by Tom posted on
Hi,
My steria profile has changed from " undergoing vetting" to " we will contact you shortly with the next stage" is this stage booking POELT? How long does it usually take for the PS to get in touch and offer a start date?
- Thanks in advance, Tom
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Tom,
We’ve provided an answer to this question over here - https://prisonjobs.blog.gov.uk/2017/12/13/an-introduction-to-poelt-prison-officer-entry-level-training/#comment-8
Thanks, Helena
Comment by taylor posted on
Hi,
My application says..
We shall be in contact with you shortly to let you know the next stage of the recruitment process.
Its been like this for a while now, what does this mean?
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Taylor,
You can find details of the next stages in the recruitment process on this candidate journey page: https://justicejobs.tal.net/vx/candidate/cms/3.%20Live%20RAD%20Candidate%20Journey
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Nick lewis posted on
Once the merit list has been finalised will we be told when that happens?
Will we be told how many people are on the merit list awaiting a posistion at our chosen prison?
And will we be told our number/ranking on that list?
Comment by Emily posted on
Hi Nick,
The merit list will be finalised once all assessments for the recruitment campaign have been completed. Please note the assessments continue for 8 weeks after the campaign closing date - I’m afraid you won’t be told when the merit list is finalised.
You also won’t be told where you are or how many people are on the merit list. The merit list is based on your RAD/ARC score - the higher you score, the more chance you have being at the top of the list.
Emily
Comment by Kevin posted on
What is the Highest possible score you can get on passing ARC? Recently received my pass score and was curious to know what it was out of.
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Kevin,
We’ve answered a similar question here - https://prisonjobs.blog.gov.uk/2018/10/15/the-recruitment-assessment-day-rad-is-changing-to-the-assessment-recruitment-centre-arc/#comment-1453
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Rebecca posted on
Hi, I’ve just passed my RAD and have received an email saying I have been put on the merit list for my chosen prison. I know my accreditation is valid for 6 month, but was just wondering if you have any idea on how long it usually takes for vacancies to come up and if I have any chance of securing a position within the 12 month? Thanks
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Rebecca,
Congrats on passing your RAD! I’m afraid we’re not able to advise on how long you’ll be on the merit list for because it’s dependent on when a vacancy opens up at the prison you’ve applied to. However, you’re on the merit list for up to 12 months from the date you’ve passed your RAD.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Jamie posted on
Good evening,
I’m currently going through vetting , I submitted my pre employment checks 17/11/17. I made a mistake on with my National Insurance number , so had to send a document in , I was becoming concerned about the vetting but fortunately the evening vetting team replied to an email I sent , they confirmed that they are waiting on HMRC to get back to them and assured me they will progress my application. So my question is do you know how long roughly HMRC are likely to take and are there many more steps to vetting that come after this? If so any ideas how long at all.
Many thanks
Jamie
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Jamie,
I’m afraid we don’t know how long the HMRC process takes, as it’s different for every candidate and we don’t hold this information. Please see this candidate journey for more information on the steps after vetting: https://justicejobs.tal.net/vx/candidate/cms/3.%20Live%20RAD%20Candidate%20Journey
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Toni wright posted on
Hi, iv been in vetting alone for 23 weeks and my application currently says..
“Your application is currently going through pre-employment checks”
Could you enlighten me on where I stand currently, are last week it says it had been referred for client decision.
Comment by Toni wright posted on
My application has now been updated and has gone back 2 stages to currently going through employment checks if we require any details etc I need to provide them.. can you help with why this has happened?
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Toni,
I’m sorry to hear the difficulties you’ve been having, I’m afraid I don’t hold this information of where you currently are in your recruitment journey. It is possible there were some issues with the documents provided at the RAD. To check this, please call the prison you’ve applied to and ask for the Vetting Contact Point (VCP) or the People Hub - they should be able to help.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Natalie posted on
Hello,
I've just passed my RAD and received an email explaining about the merit list and that the process of contacting applicants will start once all the RAD assesments have finished. However I logged onto the portal and my application status explains that I have not been recruited at this time and will remain on the merit list for 12 months. Does this mean that all the assesments have finished and the vacancies have been filled?
Kind regards.
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Natalie,
Congratulations on passing your RAD! From the information you’ve provided, it appears that you’ve been placed on the merit list. There are still candidates going through the assessment process so not all vacancies have been filled as of yet. Once the merit list order is confirmed, HMPPS will be able to make job offers as vacancies open up throughout the 12 months period.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Marta posted on
Hello,
I'm in the same situation as Natalie was. I passed my RAD and received an email saying I was now on a merit list for the prison I applied to, and I quote "The merit list orders candidates based on their performance at RAD. As vacancies arise at the prison where you applied, we will contact applicants from the merit list to offer a position. This process will begin once all assessments have taken place.". However, when I log in on the website, this message comes up:
"This vacancy attracted a number of highly qualified applicants and after careful consideration of all of the applications we are sorry to tell you that you have not been selected for appointment.".
The only problem with this is the vacancy was open until yesterday, so I called the recruitment center and I was told there were no vacancies left, because the vacancy manager had selected the candidates already. How is this possible if there were people still applying and RAD that will take place during the next few weeks?
I just wanted to understand if this is a mistake or is something that actually happens? I can't understand how something merit based is treated as a first come first served, and this makes the recruitment process extremly unfair.
Thanks
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Marta,
Sorry to hear this and I understand your frustration. From the information you’ve provided, it appears you've been placed on the merit list. HMPPS will begin to approach people on the merit list within the 12 month period once they’ve finished all assessments.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Mark Hughes posted on
I recently passed all the role plays and exams for the RAD, but failed the fitness test. I am retaking just the fitness test next week, which i am confident i will pass. Fingers crossed. That will then take me to the next stage. The problem i have is i have a holiday booked for the last two weeks of October. If i was fortunate enough to be offered a job, i fear this would clash with the POELT course. Will pre-booked holidays be honoured? I am conscious the POELT course needs to be completed in one go. Thanks.
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Mark,
Best of luck for your fitness test! As per the blog post, after you’ve been successful in your RAD you’ll then enter the vetting stage which takes on average 12 weeks. It’s only once you’ve passed vetting you’ll be invited to book onto POELT.
POELT courses run on a continuous basis meaning you should be able to pick a date that doesn’t clash with your holiday.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Robinson posted on
We shall be in contact with you shortly to let you know the next stage of the recruitment process.Can you give me more info about this message ? Did i or did not pass the vetings ? They will contact me for a formal offer ? Is been 3 months from passing the assesment day and starting the veting procedures. Thank you.
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Robinson,
I’m afraid I don’t hold information of where each candidate is on their recruitment journey. Vetting takes on average 12 weeks, you’ll be able to tell if you’ve passed vetting by logging into the online applicant portal and seeing if your status has been updated to say that your pre-employment checks have successfully completed. You can contact the prison you’ve applied to and ask for either the Vetting Contact Point (VCP) or the People Hub if you’re concerned.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Nerissa Gallagher posted on
Hi
If you pass the RAD at a prison runnng a PASS campaign (rather than a MERIT campaign) does that mean you will get offered a role, subject to all checks of course? Fully understand that if it's a MERIT campaign it's dependent on how highly you scored compared to other recruits as to when you get offered a role.
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Nerissa,
Yes you’re correct, a pass campaign is where we expect there to be enough vacancies in the 12-months period at the specific prison you’ve applied to, so you’ll be appointed to the next available vacancy.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Daniel posted on
Good morning
I done the online test and i have booked the RAD test end of this month. On the same time i need to move and I don’t know if this affect the vetting after. If i give the documets for vetting before i move and after i will have different adress. Can i have one advice how to proceed? Thank you Daniel
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Daniel,
Best of luck for your RAD! If you move house before you reach the vetting stage, you can update your address on the Application Centre. If you move house whilst in the vetting stage and already submitted your on-boarding form, you should update your address on the Application Centre and contact the Contact Centre on 0845 241 5358.
I hope this helps.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Shannon posted on
Hi
I am currently on a reserve list for 2 prisons but wondering if there is a good chance my RAD could run out before I am successful! Does this happen a lot?
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Shannon,
We do try our best to allocate you a position before your RAD accreditation runs out, however it does all depend on what vacancies are available. Therefore, I’m afraid I’m unable to let you know if you’ll be allocated a role within the 12 months.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Emil posted on
Hi there,
I have been placed on a merit list, but the job is still up on the justice website. Does this mean that no offers of employment will be made until the job closes and that there is still outstanding RADS to take place?
Thanks
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Emil,
Yes, you’re correct. Candidates are still going through the assessment process so not all of the vacancies have been filled yet. Once the merit order is confirmed, HMPPS will start making job offers as vacancies become available throughout the 12 months period.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Ashley posted on
Hi,
I completed the online OH questionnaire and then received an email with an appointment for a telephone assessment with the OH Practitioner however they failed to call me and when I called them, they said that they would leave a message on the system. I also called the Recruitment centre and they could not offer any more advice but add a note on the system. They said that OH will be in touch in 'due course'.
On checking my application centre there is no update since passing my RAD and being on the merit list. There is no communication about the OH stages that I have been through or going through.
Can you please offer any advice?
Many thanks,
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Ashley,
Apologies for the delay in getting back to you. I’m sorry to hear the difficulties you’ve been having, the only thing to do is please keep trying the OH Assist directly on 03300 085144.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by steve walls posted on
Hi
i applied and passed my RAD in Dec 17', the campaign i applied for (201710) did not mention wether it was a PASS or Merit campaign, there has not been another campaign since then, i have now been on the merit list for almost 5 months. does this mean all vacancies are full and it is a '1 out 1 in' system? also how many people be in the merit pool at any given time? and is the merit list based on the scores you recieved i.e higher the score the more likely you are to be chosen for a appointment or is it based on first come basis?
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Steve,
From the information you’ve provided, it seems that you're on the merit list, but you can phone the prison you’ve applied to to find out for certain.
You’ll remain on the merit list for up to 12 months from the date you passed your RAD. I’m afraid we’re not able to tell you how many people are on the merit list as it depends on the number of applications, but yes, the pool is listed based on your performance at the RAD. So, the higher the score the more likely you’ll be offered a job.
As soon as a vacancy opens up, you’ll be contacted by HMPPS. You’re still more than welcome to apply to as many prisons as you like while you wait.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Mark posted on
Hi, some people I have spoken to have heard back straight away when passing their RAD, another person found out the next day that she failed her maths and had to Rebook it. Is it likely that I will hear within the 5 working days on whether I have passed or not?
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Mark,
As per the blog post, you should receive your RAD results in 5 working days: https://prisonjobs.blog.gov.uk/2017/12/13/how-to-prepare-for-the-rad-recruitment-assessment-day/
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Laura posted on
Hello,
I attended a RAD recently and am awaiting some news.
I just really wondered purely out of interest what happens with the recordings from the SJT?
Who marks these?
Thank you!
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Laura,
I’m afraid as blog moderator I don’t hold this information. You should receive the results of your RAD within 5 working days.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Steve posted on
Hello there! I applied for a Merit Campaign, completed and passed my RAD and was told 'This vacancy attracted a number of highly qualified applicants and after careful consideration of all of the applications we are sorry to tell you that you have not been selected for appointment. However, as you were a strong candidate we would like to keep your name on a reserve list. This list will be valid for 12 months from the date of this correspondence and if another vacancy arises for the same position we will contact you.' I understand this was a possibility and so now I wait on the Merit list for a vacancy to open up, however, they are advertising the same job at the same prison on a Merit campaign. Surely, if this means another position has become available then myself and others on the same list as me should be offered a job?
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Steve,
Apologies it has taken so long to get back to you, I’ve been trying to find out the answer. In response to your query, we run ongoing recruitment in prisons where we need to maintain a merit list to meet our recruitment requirements.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Del posted on
Hi
I passed my RAD and have been placed on the Merit List, I applied for ISIS and Belmarsh (the RAD was for ISIS) I contacted recruiting and asked them to link my RAD pass to my Belmarsh Application.
I have noticed that there are more Vacancies for ISIS and Belmarsh, Do I also apply for these or is that pointless as I have already applied before?
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Del,
Congrats on passing your RAD! As you’ve already applied for a position and been put on the merit list there is no need to apply again to HMP Isis and HMP Belmarsh.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Del posted on
Hi
Also, I do not know anyone, in a non professional manner, who is on the Countersignature list for the vetting form. What can I do about this?
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Del,
Please call the SSCL recruitment centre on 0845 241 5358, they’ll be able to help you.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Del posted on
I received an email saying I have been placed on the Merit List but when I log on to my Application it tells me that I have been unsuccessful but I will be placed on the reserve list.
Am I on the Merit List or not?
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Del,
Yes from the information you’ve provided it seems you’ve been put on the merit list. The merit list is also known as the reserve list, you’ll remain on this list for 12 months until a vacancy opens.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Jacob posted on
Hello I have been in the pre employment checks now for over 12 weeks.
I don’t know who to contact because my job offer was for both Brinsford and Featherstone.
Any help would be really appreciated
Thankyou
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Jacob,
Please email the PORRP team PORRP-VAT@noms.gsi.gov.uk, they’ll be able to help you as they deal with vetting queries.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Romain posted on
Hello
I was successful at the RAD last week but I have just realised that it was for a Merit campaign, is it possible to transfer your RAD to another prison on PASS campaign, if so how do you do it?
Thanks
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Romain,
Yes you can transfer your RAD to another prison on a pass campaign. We’ve answered a similar question here which might be helpful - https://prisonjobs.blog.gov.uk/2018/03/22/prison-officer-vetting-101/#comment-210
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Rebecca posted on
Hello,
I passed my RAD some 4 weeks ago however my application has showed no update. My question really is that I lived in Spain during the last 10 years and only moved back to the UK 4 years ago. Do I need to contact the British Consulate in Malage to obtain a police certificate to prove I received no convictions during my residency there?
Thanks in advance
Rebecca
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Rebecca,
I’m afraid I don’t hold this information. Please email the PORRP team, PORRP-VAT@noms.gsi.gov.uk as they’ll be able to help you.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by James posted on
Hello I completed my RAD last week but I haven’t found out if I have passed or not. I have just received and email asking me to fill in a health questionare I was wonder if his means I passed?
Thanks James
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi James,
Have you logged onto your applicant portal to find out the latest update on your status?
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Jade posted on
Hi James I received my health questionnaire and filled it straight in and about an hour or so later got an email to say I was successful on my RAD. My RAD was 30th April and I received this email on the 2nd May.
It says on the email I've been passed to the accredation list but not sure what this means as my status on the website hasn't yet updated from the RAD.
Hope this helps.
Comment by Jade posted on
Hi
I have passed my RAD & have been put onto an accreditation list as per the email I received
What does this mean? Does this mean the merit list as the prison I applied for is recruiting for 50 officers
Thank You
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Jade,
The accreditation list is also known as the merit list. As per the blog post you’ll remain on this list for 12 months until a vacancy becomes available.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Jade posted on
Thank You
I also have checked my 'review status' in the online portal & it isn't showing anything, is this normal?
It has gone from showing my details for RAD to not showing anything other than the 'withdraw application' button
Thanks again
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Jade,
Please call the SSCL recruitment centre on 0845 241 5358 as they should be able to help you.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Emma posted on
Hi Jade,
How do you know how many officers the prison is recruiting for?
Thanks
Comment by Jade posted on
Hi Emma
It was in a news article with the vacancy attached when it was open ?
Jade
Comment by Emma posted on
Hi,
I received an email saying I passed my RAD, however I have not been asked to fill in a health questionnaire? When will I be asked to do this?
Thanks, Emma
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Emma,
HMPPS will be in contact soon, please keep an eye on your emails and applicant portal.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Katie posted on
Hi, I passed my RAD this week and one prison I applied for (featherstone) is a merit campaign and the other (hewell) is a pass compaign. Will both prisons be available to me and will I be given the first available vacancy at whichever comes up first or will they only offer me one for my original chosen prison?
Thank you
Katie
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Katie,
Have you already transferred your RAD to a different prison? If so, your original establishment will not be able to offer you a place as your RAD accreditation is only valid for one prison.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Andy posted on
Hi, how to you transfer your RAD results to a different prison? I have been accredited for adult prisons but not for juveniles, will that affect my application process considering the prison I applied for or the prison I may want to go for are both adults only.
Thanks, Andy
Comment by Emily posted on
Hi Andy,
We've answered this question previously: https://prisonjobs.blog.gov.uk/2017/12/13/how-to-prepare-for-the-rad-recruitment-assessment-day/#comment-351
Comment by Geni posted on
Hi,
If I failed my RAD can i apply to a different prison?
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Geni,
Yes, you can apply to as many different prisons as you like but you won’t be able to apply to the same prison where you’ve failed your RAD until the current recruitment campaign closes and reopens at a later date.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Shaun posted on
My status has changed to "your application is going through checks, it has been referred for a decision" what does this mean?
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Shaun,
You’re going through your pre-employment checks, also known as vetting. Please refer to this blog post to find out more information. You can see what the candidate journey is like here - https://justicejobs.tal.net/vx/candidate/cms/3.%20Live%20RAD%20Candidate%20Journey
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Shaun posted on
Thanks Helena I'm also worries that when they ring for a verbal offer, what happens if I'm at work and miss the call?
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Shaun,
If voicemail is available, you’ll receive a voicemail. They’ll also send you an email asking you to call the team back after 4pm.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Jade posted on
Hi Shaun
Can I just ask how long did it take for your status to change to this? From you completing your RAD?
Thanks
Comment by Shaun posted on
Around 8 weeks jade
Comment by Riane posted on
Hi Shaun, how long did your status say referred for decision before getting a call?
Comment by Tracy posted on
Hi I recently passed all elements of RAD but was 1 mark off my English so was invited back for a retake. I have now completed that and sent off the OH questionaire but still unaware if I've passed the English or not?
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Tracy,
You should receive your RAD results in 5 working days. Keep an eye on both your emails and applicant portal as HMPPS will be in touch with you.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Liviu posted on
Hi,
In how many days they call you to retake English test? I fail also English and I wait for them to call me back.
Thank you
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Liviu,
You’ll be contacted in 5 working days. As per the blog post, you’ll only be able to retake your English test if you’ve failed but are close to the pass mark.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Steve posted on
Hi, I passed my RAD for a ‘merit campaign’ and was put on the ‘merit list’. I then applied for a ‘pass campaign’ and called SSCL and asked for my RAD result to be used for this application also. I then received an email explaining that I was put on the ‘merit list’ for this application even though it was a ‘pass campaign’. I am now extremely confused by the difference between ‘pass’ and ‘merit’ campaigns, especially when both prisons are still advertising vacancies. Is there anyone I can speak to for more information about this? Thanks
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Steve,
A pass campaign does have a merit list but does differ slightly as this is where we expect there to be enough vacancies in the 12 month period at the prison you’ve applied to, this means you’ll be appointed to the next available vacancy. Whereas a merit list is based on your RAD accreditation, so the higher you score the more chance you will get a position.
Please keep an eye on your emails.
I hope that’s helpful.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Tracy posted on
I passed RAD yay!!!!
I have been asked to do a telephone interview with OH is this anything to worry about or is it just clarification on things I enclosed in the questionaire?
Thanks Tracy
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Tracy,
Congrats on passing your RAD! No, there is nothing to be worried about, its just an informal chat about your OH questionnaire that you’ve filled in.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Gary Edwards posted on
As the vetting process takes so long I have had to start a new job, once I pass vetting, how long can I postpone my start date for?
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Gary,
We’ve answered a similar question here- https://prisonjobs.blog.gov.uk/2017/12/13/an-introduction-to-poelt-prison-officer-entry-level-training/#comment-57
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Glenn posted on
Hi, I have been invited for the RAD, I have just moved address and my driving licence is being renewed and should be here before the RAD and my new birth certificate is in the post as I misplaced it in the move, also a bank statement is on the way all I hope before the RAD. I have plenty of items to proof of address but to my previous one, am I able to use this if my drivers licence shows my new address? or am I in somewhat of a pickle here?
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Glenn,
Please bring as many of these documents with you so that the team can pull out the most appropriate information. If it’s possible, we’d encourage you to go to your bank, get them to amend your address on file and then print out a new statement. If the bank stamps this, it will then count as one proof of address.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Francesca posted on
Hi just 3 weeks after vetting started my status changed to referred for a decision and now gone back to pre employment checks in progress. Is this normal?
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Francesca,
Yes, this just means the vetting team are working through your pre-employment checks which can take on average 12 weeks.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Iulian posted on
Hi Helena, recently I received an email informing me that my pre-employment checks has been successfully completed and asked me to call to a number to discuss a start date. I called and one lady told me that was no one availabale to talk to me at that moment and I will receive a call asap to discuss a verball offer. I been waiting for 2 days and I didn't receive any call. I called back and no one answer. Do you know what I suppose to do? Thank you!
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Lulian,
The email you were sent should say to call the team back after 4pm, can I please check you’re ringing after 4pm?
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Jade posted on
Hi Lulian
Can I just ask how long it took to hear about this following your RAD?
Thanks
Comment by Emma posted on
Hi,
I have received an offer so have to fill in my pre-employment checks. I am currently away and so unable to retrieve some of the information needed.
Do I have fill in the pre employment information within a specific time frame?
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Emma,
No, there’s no specific time frame, but delaying your pre-employment checks will delay the next stages of your recruitment journey. Please email the PORRP team, PORRP-VAT@noms.gsi.gov.uk, as they deal with vetting so you can let them know you’re currently away.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Rebecca posted on
Hi
I’ve passed all my checks and have had a formal offer to start at the Verne Portland in October but I’ve later found out that Winchester prison is also recruiting and is a lot closer to me, can I transfer prisons before my start date?
Thanks
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Rebecca,
Due to already having a start date, I’m afraid we wouldn’t be able to advise you on this. I’d encourage you to ring HMP The Verne and speak to the recruitment advisor there as they’ll be able to help you.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Chloe posted on
Hello,
My status has just changed to;
'Thank you very much for your interest in PSP.
Your application is currently being reviewed, and we will be in contact with you shortly to let you know the outcome.'
Do you know how long it takes from receiving this message to receiving a call? I'm hopeful this is the last step before receiving a verbal offer.
Thanks.
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Chloe,
As soon as you pass vetting, which can take on average 12 weeks, you’ll be contacted about a start date depending on the availability of the prison.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Mark posted on
Hi, I’ve only just started the pre employment checks, I am already security cleared and hold an enhanced dbs. I’ve just noticed my application has been changed to Your application is currently going through pre-employment checks and has been referred for a decision. is this a good sign ? Thanks
Comment by Mark posted on
It’s now saying, We shall be in contact with you shortly to let you know the next stage of the recruitment process.
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Mark,
Keep an eye both on your applicant portal and emails as HMPPS will be in contact with you to talk about next steps.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Mark posted on
Hi Helena
Thanks for your response. Got the call
Today to say all cleared and offered a start date 🙂
Comment by Jamie posted on
Hi Mark when you got your call how long was it till your start date ?
Thank you
Jamie
Comment by Jade posted on
Hi Mark
Can I just ask which prison this was for?
Congratulations!
Comment by Dan posted on
I am filling out my pre employment information and have come to the section for professional membership. Not quite sure what I need to put?
Membership to what?
Bit confused and hope I'm not being thick!
Thanks Dan
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Dan,
This refers to whether or not you’re a member of a registered professional body. For example, doctors, psychologists or accountants typically belong to their own professional memberships. If you don’t belong to one, it’s fine just to keep this section blank.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Steve posted on
Hello,
I’m pondering applying to be a prison officer but I do have the letter E tattooed on my ring finger. Would this hinder any application?
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Steve,
We’ve answered a similar question on tattoos here - https://prisonjobs.blog.gov.uk/2017/12/13/an-introduction-to-poelt-prison-officer-entry-level-training/#comment-430
Thanks, Helena
Comment by allana posted on
Hi,
I am a UK Citizen but currently living overseas but will be returning to the UK within the year. Am I able to apply for a vacancy as a Prison Officer if I out of the country?
Many thanks and look forward to hearing from you.
Allana
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Allana,
Yes you can apply, as long as you’re in the UK for your RAD and POELT training.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Lou posted on
I have completed the rad successfuly and have filled out the oh assist health questionnaire. Can you tell me please what to expect next as I've had no other contact after receiving rad results. Many thanks
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Lou,
We’ve answered a similar question here - https://prisonjobs.blog.gov.uk/2017/12/13/an-introduction-to-poelt-prison-officer-entry-level-training/#comment-173
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Sarah posted on
Hi, I’ve applied to a HMPYOI, and have my RAD next week, I was wondering if their is a alternative test to the beep test as I had knee reconstruction, it doesn’t stop me doing anything but sharp turns hurt, Thanks.
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Sarah,
When you arrive for your fitness test, please let the RAD assessors know about your knee.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by simon posted on
just found out my pre employment checks have been unsucessful, what could be the reasons, cant think of anything.
thanks
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Simon,
I’m afraid I don’t hold this information, but common reasons could be due to your references, not returning the correct information or failing to disclose information.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Glenn posted on
Hi, there isn't enough spaces on the work history page, as I work.in construction I have worked for 13 employers over 5 years, all short term work. But the form only has space for 9 and won't allow me to add any more.
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Glenn,
You can use the additional details field on your application to add the rest of your job history so that you can provide all of your employment details.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Ryan posted on
Hello,
I'm currently going through the Vetting Process and my status has been updated to
"We shall be in contact with you shortly to let you know the next stage of the recruitment process".
And the vetting process check list has now disappeared. Does this mean I have completed vetting?
Also
What is the next step ?
Regards,
Ryan.
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Ryan,
We’ve answered a similar questions here - https://prisonjobs.blog.gov.uk/2018/03/22/prison-officer-vetting-101/#comment-339 and here - https://prisonjobs.blog.gov.uk/2018/03/22/prison-officer-vetting-101/#comment-227
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Kay posted on
Hi,
I have recently attended Familiarisation day and have a RAD booked in the next couple of weeks. I have to attend the assessment centre in Rugby, which is a 3 hour and 43 minute journey via public transport and a 2 hour drive. Is there any RAD Assessment Centres based in London? or close London?
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Kay,
There are RAD centres across the country but we need to allocate people to ones that have availability. You could try checking with the system you booked your RAD with to find the next available one that’s more convenient for you.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Rhiannon posted on
Hi
I passed the RAD in March and I am on an accreditation list I go on to my application on the justice website and check my status update but all it keeps saying is application update, what does this mean?
Thank you
Comment by Rhiannon posted on
I also filled out the OH assessment online and heard nothing back from that? I’m just a bit confused as to what will be happening
Thank you
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Rhiannon,
From the information you’ve provided, it seems you’re currently going through pre-employment checks also known as vetting, this can take up to 12 weeks. You can call the prison you’ve applied to and ask for the Vetting Contact Point or the People Hub and they should be able to help you.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Olly posted on
Hi there, I applied for a position at Full Sutton, York, and subsequently passed the RAD. Am I now able to transfer my RAD accreditation to Wetherby? I heard as it was a youth offenders institution that I would have to pass yet another RAD day 🙁 Any help or advice would be appreciated.
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Olly,
We’ve answered a similar question here - https://prisonjobs.blog.gov.uk/2017/12/13/how-to-prepare-for-the-rad-recruitment-assessment-day/#comment-523
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Daniela posted on
Hello, I have attended the RAD on 30th of May, I haven’t received the results yet but I received an email inviting me for a familiarisation day in July .
Is it alright to book that even though I don’t know my RAD results yet?
Thank you
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Daniela,
You should receive your RAD results in 5 working days, so you can make a decision on if you’d like to book onto a familiarisation day once you get your results. Please keep an eye on both your applicant portal and emails.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Daniela posted on
Hey Helena ,
I haven’t received the RAD results but I have received an email asking to complete a health questionnaire.
Does that mean that I passed the RAD ? Thank you, Daniela
Comment by Emily posted on
Hi Daniela,
Please log onto your applicant portal to see the most up to date status of your application.
When asked for information, we also recommend responding as soon as possible to avoid delays with your application.
Many thanks,
Emily
Comment by Luke Gilchrist posted on
Hi,
Im currently going through my vetting procedure, however I need to change my counter signatory as they are no longer able to provide me with this.
I have contacted the SSCL recruitment line however I have been given two different email addresses to contact and have not received anything back from them.
Can you please advise who I can contact to get this resolved?
Thanks, Luke
Comment by Emily posted on
Hi Luke,
Please email PORRP-VAT@noms.gsi.gov.uk - they should be able to help.
Many thanks,
Emily
Comment by Andy posted on
Hi there,
I completed my RAD a few days ago and have received the email to say I was successful with the adults but not juveniles. The prison I applied for is adults only anyway. Will my application carry on as normal?
Thanks, Andy
Comment by Emily posted on
Hi Andy,
Yes, it should.
Thanks
Emily
Comment by Daniela posted on
Hello , does the SSCL recruitment centre have an email address I could write to?
Being at work most of the days, I found it easier to contact them by email and not phone. Thank you
Kind regards, Daniela
Comment by Emily posted on
Hi
Please try the email address provided on our recruitment page: MoJ-recruitment@noms.gsi.gov.uk
https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/ministry-of-justice/about/recruitment
Thanks
Emily
Comment by Laura posted on
Hey , I have been offered a provisional job offer in Winchester which I accepted, but I haven’t yet submited the documents required for the pre-employment checks .
I have now changed my mind and I’d like to apply to the one in Portland and move to that area.
Can I withdraw that application made in Winchester , apply in Portland and use the RAD I have already passed ?
Many thanks
Comment by Emily posted on
Hi Laura
Yes, you would need to make another application to Winchester and pass the online tests. Once passed and invited to the RAD, you can phone SSCL to ask them to transfer your RAD accreditation over. We've answered a similar question here: https://prisonjobs.blog.gov.uk/2017/12/13/an-introduction-to-poelt-prison-officer-entry-level-training/#comment-181
However, before you do anything I would advise that you please check whether or not Winchester is currently recruiting people to go on a waiting list (also known as merit list). Some prisons receive many high quality applications than there are vacancies, so for merit list prisons, you're not guaranteed a job even if you pass the RAD.
Hope that helps,
Emily
Comment by Carl posted on
I applied for an adult prison but was sent on a RAD which incorporated Juvenile role play assesment. I was accredited for an adult position but failed the juvenile, which I didn’t even know I was being assessed for. Do I have to inform anyone that it was an adult prison I applied for or will they know even though it states I have failed the assesment Also my application was for a Merit campaign yet the same prison are now advertising for a PASS campaign. Should I transfer my application to the PASS campaign advert even though it’s the same prison. Will this give me a quaranteed job rather than be put on the merit list?
I am confused
Comment by Emily posted on
Hi Carl,
I would recommend speaking with the People team at the prison you've applied to, who you can reach by phoning the prison you've applied to.
Thanks,
Emily
Comment by Abbiegail posted on
Hello,
I passed my RAD day on the 15th May.
I have had an email saying 'I am pleased to inform you that following your recent attendance at RAD for prison officer selection, you were successful in achieving a pass and are accredited for appointment. As a result your name has been placed on a merit list for appointment.'
What will be the next step?
The job has been reposted on the Indeed job website so i'm assuming that there are jobs still available and they are recruiting. I've also been told that the prisons i have applied for are desperate for staff.
Please could you let me know what i should recieve next, if anything.
Thank you
Comment by Emily posted on
Hi Abbiegail,
Please keep an eye on your applicant portal and emails as the next step will be either emailed to you or updated on your applicant portal.
For info, here is a timeline of the recruitment journey as a whole so you can see what comes next: https://justicejobs.tal.net/vx/candidate/cms/3.%20Live%20RAD%20Candidate%20Journey
Thanks,
Emily
Comment by Abbiegail posted on
Hello Emily.
Thank you for your quick response.
It has been over a month since i passed the RAD and since i had the email explaining this to me. Since then i have had no further contact. I was asked to complete and OH heath questionnaire a month ago also but haven't heard anything since.
The job is still being advertised online for all the prisons i have applied for.
I don't know if i have been sucsessful for any of the prisons or what the next stage is. Nothing has changed on the portol and i haven't recieved any further emails.
Is there anybody i can contact or is this standard?
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Abbiegail,
I’m sorry to hear of the lack of communications. Please call the SSCL recruitment centre on 0845 241 5358 they’ll be able to assist you further.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Megan roper posted on
Hi, I’ve sadly just failed the assessment day at the eyesight test. I wear spectacles or contacts and have difficulty seeing clearly without them however I have up to date sight tests and drive a car.
The assessor asked me to read from the board without any aids and then said I failed as I couldn’t see anything clearly. I can’t read anything on the preparation information that says I need to be able to see without aids.... in fact there is a reminder to bring them. I’m just wondering where I stand here? Can I appeal? I’m really confused and disappointed. Many thanks
Megan
Comment by Emily posted on
Hi Megan
Apologies for the delay in my response.
I'm sorry to hear your news, I understand your disappointment. We inform candidates about the eyesight test on our recruitment website (under 'Eyesight') which says "You will be asked to read the 2 letters on the second line of an optician’s chart from 6 metres, with both eyes open and without glasses or contact lenses" -
https://prisonandprobationjobs.gov.uk/prison-officer/tips-for-applying/
We also inform applicants of this in the email invitation to the RAD, and the RAD portal: https://justicejobs.tal.net/vx/candidate/cms/3.%20Live%20RAD%20The%20Physical%20Test%20and%20Medical%20Test
If you sadly don't meet the eyesight requirements to be a prison officer, I'm afraid I'm not sure how successful an appeal will be.
Many thanks,
Emily
Comment by kristina posted on
Hello. Currently i am going thru pre-employment checks. However my status was "passed for a decision" and today it says "going thru higher checks and/or health outstanding". What does it means? Thanks.
Comment by Emily posted on
Hi, this just means that your application is progressing and you may be asked for further information to complete your pre-employment checks. Please keep an eye out on your emails and applicant portal and if you're asked to provide any information, please do so as soon as possible to avoid delays with your application.
Comment by Duncan posted on
hello, I have been applying I got passed the RAD. Unfortunately my vetting has failed. I have requested more information is there anyway to appeal or is that my application over?
if the is a way to appeal is there any indication as to how long the process takes?
Comment by Emily posted on
Hi Duncan,
I’m afraid we don’t hold this information, but common reasons for failing vetting could be due to your references, not returning the correct information or failing to disclose information.
Comment by Daisy posted on
Hello, I also have a question regarding vetting.
Please can you out line the things you would be looking into.
Criminal Record?
Credit Check?
Employment Dates?
I am also wondering if you'd contact my employer while I'm still here, I'm concerned because the vetting can take 12 weeks.
Thank you!
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Daisy,
I’m afraid I can’t go into specific details in our vetting process on this public blog. We may not contact your employer as it all depends on the HMRC process. Please refer back to the blog post on this page as we explain more about whether your employer will be contacted.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Shannon posted on
Hello
I passed my RAD in April but I was placed on the Merit List. I then transferred my RAD to another prison but was also placed on that Merit List. Will I still be considered for vacancies for the first prison I applied to or not?
Thanks
Comment by Emily posted on
Hi Shannon,
Since you transferred your application to another prison then no, you won't be considered for the first prison for vacancies.
Comment by Daniela posted on
Hey Shannon, how long did it take to have your RAD accreditation transfered over ?
As I am at the moment waiting for a confirmation to say that they have done it.
Thanks, Daniela
Comment by Shannon Widdall posted on
Hi Daniela,
It was done within 7 days when I transferred my RAD. You could always call back to see when it will be done
Thanks
Comment by Daniela posted on
Thanks for your reply Shannon .
I have received today an email reminding me to book in my RAD. Did you book yours in anyway just to be sure whilst they were transfering your RAD accreditation over?
Thanks, Daniela
Comment by Shannon posted on
Hi Daniela
No I phoned back and asked the same question when I was transferring mine. I was told to just wait and it would be done automatically and it eventually was.
Good Luck! Hope you have better luck than me 🙂
Shannon
Comment by Katie posted on
Hi,
I’ve been given a date to start my POELT training and in the letter I received it’s asked me to take training shoes and suitable clothes to wear for physical training. What will this been needed for during the course?
Thank you
Katie.
Comment by Emily posted on
Hi Katie,
There will be physical elements involved in the training, so please be sure to bring comfortable clothes and shoes. Please refer to our blog post on the POELT for more information: https://prisonjobs.blog.gov.uk/2017/12/13/an-introduction-to-poelt-prison-officer-entry-level-training/
Comment by Aidan posted on
Hi I recently passed my RAD and then received the OH health questionnaire, a question come up about immunisation documents and I put that I didn’t have them but now realise I do? Does this matter much anyway or shall I get in contact with the vetting team?
Thanks
Aidan
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Aidan,
Please contact the PORRP team, PORRP-VAT@noms.gsi.gov.uk, as they deal with vetting queries.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Damian posted on
Hi. I transferred my RAD to another prison. How long need to wait untill something will change. I transferred 4 days ago and I still have message for RAD booking?
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Damian,
It can take a while to transfer your RAD over, if you have any concerns please ring the SSCL Recruitment Centre - 0845 241 5358.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Imogen Smith posted on
Hi I recently passed my RAD for a HMYOI under a PASS campaign, yet recieved an email saying i haven't been chosen for an appointment and have been put on a merit list based upon performance. I am confused as to why I am now on a merit list when I applied to a prison with a Pass Campaign.
Does this mean there are no vacancies and I have no chance of getting the role?
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Imogen,
No this isn’t the case, you’ll still be considered for a role. A pass campaign does have a merit list but does differ slightly as this is where we expect there to be enough vacancies in the 12 month period at the prison you’ve applied to, this means you’ll be appointed to the next available vacancy.
Additionally, the merit list in merit campaigns are based on your RAD accreditation, so the higher you score the more chance you’ll get a position.
I hope that’s helpful.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Shannon posted on
Hi
Is anybody actually successful straight after they pass the RAD as I have been placed onto 3 merit lists now and I thought I got pretty good scores. Do they just recruit throughout the year? Its all a little bit disappointing.
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Shannon,
I’m sorry to hear this and understand your frustration. Yes, depending on the number of prison vacancies, positions are offered without first going on a merit list. Candidates will go onto a merit list if there are many strong applicants looking to fill only a limited number of vacancies, and positions are allocated based on scores at the RAD.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Shannon posted on
Hello
Thanks for your reply.
One prison I transferred my RAD to advertised 50 vacancies. This seemed a lot so was hoping to be successful but I was again placed on a merit list. Did this mean they had filled all 50 of them?
It is possible to find out if you stand a chance at all? I just don't want to keep transferring my RAD to then find out I may have been contacted later throughout the year.
I'm just beginning to lose hope and feel as though it was all for nothing.
Thanks very much
Shannon
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Shannon,
We do understand it’s frustrating, please don’t lose hope. This doesn’t necessarily mean that the 50 vacancies are already full as assessments may not be over for that particular campaign yet. As soon as the campaign closes, the prison will turn to the merit list and begin giving vacancies to those on the merit list.
I’m afraid you can’t find out where you are on the merit list.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Courtney posted on
Hi I've been placed on a merit list but got sent a medical healthcare questionnaire today, does this mean this are moving forward?or not?
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Courtney,
This is part of the vetting process, I’m unable to advise whether or not you’re moving forward as I don’t hold information on where you are in your journey. Please do try and fill this in and send it back as soon as possible.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Mike posted on
My online application says
Your application is currently going through pre-employment checks and has been referred for a decision.
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Mike,
We’ve answered a similar question here - https://prisonjobs.blog.gov.uk/2018/03/22/prison-officer-vetting-101/#comment-233
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Jamie posted on
Hi I'm going though my vetting at the moment and I have checked in today to see what the status if and it's changed to Your application is currently going through pre-employment checks and has been referred for a decision.
What does this mean ?
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Jamie,
We’ve answered a similar question here - https://prisonjobs.blog.gov.uk/2018/03/22/prison-officer-vetting-101/#comment-515
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Jade posted on
Hi
I have recently received my email to say I have been added to a reserve list. Is this the same as a merit list?
What happens next with the reserve list? I'm unsure as the email and online application seem to contradict themselves.
Thank you
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Jade,
We’ve answered a similar question here - https://prisonjobs.blog.gov.uk/2018/03/22/prison-officer-vetting-101/#comment-407. Please refer to the above blog post for more information about the merit list.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Shannon posted on
Hi
I recently applied for a vacancy and was put on the merit list.
The same prison has since put a new advert up for a new campaign.
If they still have vacancies how come I haven’t been successful? Really confused
Thanks
Shannon
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Shannon,
We run ongoing recruitment in prisons where we need to maintain a merit list to meet our recruitment requirements.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Shannon posted on
Hello
Thanks for your reply.
So would you advise to apply to the new campaign on remain on the merit list for the campaign I applied for?
Thanks
Shannon
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Shannon,
Due to already being on the merit list, I’m afraid we wouldn’t be able to advise you on this. I’d encourage you to ring the prison you’ve applied to and speak to the recruitment advisor there as they’ll be able to help you.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Derek Moore posted on
Hi Helena ,
You've absolutely not answered Shannon's question at all there, & it is one I want answering too because the exact same thing has happened to me.
You tell applicants that they have "passed", only them put them on a 12 month "merit list" for a job they may or may not get.
That is intensely frustrating! especially when the positions are being re-advertised on various job search sites.
I would much rather be told I have failed & have another crack at it then be left with this uncertainty.
But at this point, I'm deeply dubious as to whether there even are any actual jobs available..
Either way it's a disgusting way to treat hopeful applicants looking to start a new career.
Derek.
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Derek.
I understand your frustration. However, as blog moderators we are only able to provide information and we are not involved in the recruitment process itself or how it’s structured.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Shannon posted on
Hello Derek
I completely agree with you. I passed my RAD in April and was placed on the merit list and as I read on here you can apply to as many as you want.
I thought that meant you could do that and any of the prisons you have applied to could contact you but that isn't the case and once you transfer your RAD you are no longer be considered for the previous one you applied to. This leaves me wondering what to do for the best do you wait it out on the merit list your on or do you apply to a new prison.
Its an awful recruitment process to go through if they are just doing it to keep a reserve list and they don't actually have any jobs.
Shannon
Comment by Shepmi posted on
Hi Shannon,
I see i am not the only candidate having this very same FRUSTRATION and Concerns.
I am putting this as a suggestion that it would be a better idea to define a clear process.
Hopes are raised when one gets to pass RAD and then the next email you get is a waiting merit list, which i want to believe is rearly being considered.
I have been on a Merit list since April and have also merged my RAD to 4 other Prisons< still the same email gets to me.
Comment by Stan posted on
Hello. I was wondering if i have tattoos on both arms one is a sleeve and one is a half sleeve, nothing offensive or political or anything along those line. Does that affect my chances of getting the job?
Thanks in advance.
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Stan,
As long as they’re not deemed offensive, which you’ve said they’re not - we’re not too strict on this.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Shannon posted on
Hi
I passed my RAD and was asked to fill out OH form online. I submitted this and around 1 week later I got an email to say I hadn’t been selected for appointment.
How come they ask you to fill out OH if you haven’t been chosen for that vacancy?
Thanks
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Shannon,
I’m sorry to hear this. The company who sends out the OH form wouldn’t know the outcome of your assessment but send out the forms after the RAD to ensure candidates are fit for the role.
This means that if a candidate doesn’t get a job and is instead placed on a merit list but then is hired within the next 12 months after their RAD, it means their paperwork is already completed.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Luke posted on
Hi,
I passed my RAD on May 10th, got a email to say 'Your details and accreditation notification will now be sent to the Ministry of Justice administration centre. They will hold your details on the accreditation list and contact you as soon as you are matched to a vacancy at your chosen Prison so that the vetting and security process can be started where required.' And my review status still says 'application update', is my application progressing?
Thanks
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Luke,
The accreditation list is also known as the merit list, so from the email it looks like you’ve been put on this until a vacancy comes up. Your application will remain live for up to 12 months after you’ve passed the RAD. So, you’ll remain on the list either until you’ve received an offer at the prison or the 12 months have passed.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Luke posted on
Yesterday I rang the recruitment line they said my RAD results haven't been sent over yet even though it's been nearly 2 month. I applied for a prison with 50 jobs available but will these be gone now?
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Luke,
I’m sorry to hear the trouble you’ve been having, please email the PORRP team PORRP-VAT@noms.gsi.gov.uk as they’ll be able to help you.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Sarah posted on
Hi,
I passed my RAD under a Pass campaign and received an email saying I've been put on an accreditation list. I'm confused as I thought I would be offered a role if I applied to a pass campaign.
It's a bit disappointing and it's an intense assessment process to just be put on a waiting list.
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Sarah,
I completely understand your frustration. We’ve answered a similar question here - https://prisonjobs.blog.gov.uk/2018/03/22/prison-officer-vetting-101/#comment-484
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Scott posted on
Passed my Rad and put on merit list for prison of choice. It’s based of RAD performance but most things such as fitness test was just pass assessment. You couldn’t go above and beyond expectations. So is it just dependant on how well you did on your role plays?
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Scott,
Yes, the scores depend on your Situational Judgement Tests which the assessors are marking you on. Please refer to this RAD blog post for more information - https://prisonjobs.blog.gov.uk/2017/12/13/how-to-prepare-for-the-rad-recruitment-assessment-day/.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by al posted on
if i was unsuccessful in my online application , when can i re apply for this vacancy ?
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi,
You can re-apply once the campaign has closed and reopened at a later date. However you’re more than welcome to apply to other prisons that you might also be interested in.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by arman posted on
hi, after more then a month of my vetting being processed, my status finally changed to 'We shall be in contact with you shortly to let you know the next stage of the recruitment process.' what does this mean?
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Arman,
We’ve answered a similar question which might be useful - https://prisonjobs.blog.gov.uk/2018/03/22/prison-officer-vetting-101/#comment-233
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Shannon posted on
Hi
Can you withdraw your application from 1 prison and transfer your RAD back to a previous prison you was placed on the merit list for?
Thanks
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Shannon,
Please call the recruitment contact centre on 0845 241 5358 as they’ll be able to help you with your question.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Courtney posted on
My current status online says the are delighted to offer me a verbal offer and they look forward to hearing from me? Who do I contact?
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Courtney,
Please can I check whether you’ve also received an email or a voicemail?
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Jamie posted on
Please may I ask how long after submitting your pre employment checks details did you get this message please Courtney, thank you ?
Comment by Debi posted on
Hi
Ive been given a start date in 6 months time which is great. Do i need to hand in my notice now or can i wait until nearer the time? Will my employers be contacted before i hand in my notice?
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Debi,
We’ve answered a similar question which might be helpful - https://prisonjobs.blog.gov.uk/2017/12/13/an-introduction-to-poelt-prison-officer-entry-level-training/#comment-102
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Jade posted on
Hi Debi
Can I just ask what prison you've been given a start date for and how long were you on the merit list before being given a start date
Thanks ?
Comment by Charlie posted on
Hi,
I recently passed my assessment day for a pass campaign, only to receive a notification on my application immediately after stating i have not been chosen for employment but have been placed on a merit list. I'm just wondering whether you could shed any light on the likeliness of me being offered a job, as I've been waiting for 2 months and still not heard anything.
Thanks.
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Charlie,
I’m afraid I don’t hold this information. As you’re on the merit list for a pass campaign we do expect there to be enough vacancies within the 12 month period which is slightly different to a merit list in merit campaigns.
You can read more about the difference between pass campaigns and merit campaigns here - https://prisonjobs.blog.gov.uk/2018/03/22/prison-officer-vetting-101/#comment-757
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Alex posted on
I have applied for The Mount and also for a joint campaign between Pentonville and Wormwood scrubs. When I applied for both they were running ‘PASS CAMPAIGNS’ but on both occasions I have been placed on a merit list. Is there actually any jobs still available within the prison service? I’m really keen to get started but the whole process is becoming really frustrating
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Alex,
I understand your frustration. There’s a merit list for pass campaigns which slightly differs from a merit list for a merit campaign. With pass campaigns we do expect their to be enough vacancies within the 12 month period.
You can read more about the difference between pass campaigns and merit campaigns here - https://prisonjobs.blog.gov.uk/2018/03/22/prison-officer-vetting-101/#comment-757
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Zak posted on
Hi Helena,
i was successful on my RAD and am currently going through vettting, my status has changed to "Your application is currently going through pre-employment checks with either higher level checks and/or Health outstanding." have i missed somthing, or is everything ok?
Thanks in advance
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Zak,
This just means the vetting team are working through your pre-employment checks which can take on average 12 weeks.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Neil Chandler posted on
Hello,
I am just asking about my current status on my portal. I am concerned that I may have missed some communication as my current status is
'Your application is currently going through pre-employment checks with either higher level checks and/or Health outstanding.'
Is there anywhere I can check or ask that I have not missed any communication.
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Neil,
We’ve answered a similar question here - https://prisonjobs.blog.gov.uk/2018/03/22/prison-officer-vetting-101/#comment-879
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Paul H posted on
Afternoon,
I passed my RAD in June and I received an email saying that I have been put onto the merit list. on the application portal is says that I was unsuccessful in my application but have been placed on a wait list. What I don't quite understand is the role I applied for originally had a closing date of 30th June, I have just looked and it has been extended to 27th July. Is this because they didn't have enough people to apply or is it that the scores of those on a merit list did not score well enough even though they passed the assessment?
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Paul,
It’s quite common for job adverts to be extended when not enough candidates have applied to a role. In terms of prison officer recruitment, prisons need to have a merit list to ensure the service can meet its ongoing recruitment needs whenever new vacancies arise.
The prison you applied to may not have had a large merit list, so this recruitment campaign would have been extended.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Carl McDicken posted on
Hello
I think I have failed pre employment checks because of not being on the electoral register. This was a genuine oversight. Is there any other way I can prove I have lived at my present address for five years. If not, I have now registered on the electoral register - can I reapply or will I have to wait five years for five years address history? I am 21 years old. Thanks Carl
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Carl,
I’m afraid as you’ve failed pre-employment checks you’ll need to wait 12 months before re-applying.
I’ve seen you’ve sent us some further comments about appealing against the vetting results. In order to appeal a vetting decision you need to put it in writing, providing the details of the reason for your appeal and send it to SSCL.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Ron posted on
My Vetting Status is now showing as complete as of the 20th-July. When I called the vetting Team they advised the results have been passed on to the Home Office Decision Maker.
Any Idea how long the decision process takes:
I also noticed my vetting status was: COMPLETED but further up in the messages it advises the status should be SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETED.
Any help/advice would be appreciated
Comment by Emily posted on
Hi Ron
I'm afraid we can't advise specifically how long it takes for your vetting to be completed because it depends on the individual person and what information they've provided. This blog post explains what can typically cause delays.
In general, vetting can take on average 12 weeks to complete.
Thanks
Emily
Comment by Charlotte posted on
Hi there,
I’m not sure if I’m on the right blog but I’ve recently been successful for an admin job at a prison. I’ve previously been an officer at the same prison and left 2 years ago, will this speed anything up for me?
My status has changed to being referred for a decision a week after submitting my vetting and I also submitted my OH form last night. Does this mean I’m nearing the end of the vetting process, because as far as I am aware my current employers and countersignatory have not been contacted for references yet?
Comment by Emily posted on
Hi Charlotte
I'm afraid I can't advise on the process for non-prison officer roles. However, please keep checking back onto your applicant portal for updates on your vetting status.
Thanks
Emily
Comment by Chris posted on
Hi, I'am currently going through the vetting process, I received an email to say unfortunately we have not yet received a response from the following employment reference. Will this affect my vetting process time etc.
Thanks Chris
Comment by Emily posted on
Hi Chris
Yes, this will. Please get in touch with your employer for your reference as this will hold up your vetting process time.
Thanks
Emily
Comment by Stephen Hewitt posted on
Hi I've just passed my RAD and was wondering what will happen next as the e-mail I received saying i was succesful was quite vague.
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Stephen,
The next step is your pre-employment checks also known as vetting. You can read more about vetting here - https://prisonjobs.blog.gov.uk/2018/03/22/prison-officer-vetting-101/.
You can find a summary of the candidate journey here - https://justicejobs.tal.net/vx/candidate/cms/3.%20Live%20RAD%20Candidate%20Journey.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Stephen Hewitt posted on
Hi I got confirmation yesterday that I was successful in my RAD gaining a A* A and 5 B*, I've just had an e-mail to complete an occupational health questionnaire, this seems fast compared to some other people, can I assume things are moving in the right direction?
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Stephen,
Congratulations for passing your RAD. You’ve now started your pre-employment checks, which can take on average 12 weeks but it can vary. The 12-weeks timescales is an average.
Congratulations again,
Helena
Comment by Jade posted on
Hi Helena
Regarding this post it is very similar to my journey. I passed RAD and then hot the occupational health questionnaire but then received an email about 6 weeks ago saying I'd been placed on the merit list as I was a strong candidate and will be contacted should another vacancy arises.
Does this mean my pre employment checks have been completed or are on going?
The emails to the online application are very vague and contradicting.
Thanks
Jade
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Jade,
I’m afraid I don’t know where you’re on your recruitment journey. You’ll be able to see if you’ve started going through your pre-employment checks via your applicant portal. However, we’ve answered a similar question here - https://prisonjobs.blog.gov.uk/2018/03/22/prison-officer-vetting-101/#comment-974
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Shannon posted on
Hello
I noticed a previous post to say they had passed RAD and has received a occupation health questionnaire. Can I just ask how come I also received this but a few days later had an email to say I was placed on the merit list?
Thanks
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Shannon,
The occupational health questionnaire is sent to all candidates as part of the recruitment process. Please fill this out and send it back as soon as possible, as it speeds up the process should a job offer be made at a later date.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Emma posted on
Passed my RAD in June & was placed on a merit list - like most other people it seems.
How long are people usually on this for - as recruitment closed, yet opened again 2 days ago for another 50 positions. So there are clearly positions there, yet not being offered to people who have actually already passed the RAD’s.. I don’t understand this, and nobody can seem to tell me what is going on?
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Emma,
As per the blog post, you’ll remain on the merit list for 12 months until a vacancy arises.
In terms of prison officer recruitment, prisons need to have a merit list to ensure the service can meet its ongoing recruitment needs whenever new vacancies arise.
A common reason to why campaigns are extended or re-opened is because the prison you have applied to may not have had a large merit list.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Ste posted on
After reading most of the comments on here, I'm dubious as to whether there are actually any vacancies available at all and they just like to keep there reserve list topped up, I thought my RAD role plays were scored quite well and was told I wasn't selected for appointment as there were better candidates but put on a merit list and this seems to be the case for most people who have commented on here
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Stephen,
I understand your frustration. Prisons need to have a merit list to ensure the service can meet its ongoing recruitment needs whenever new vacancies arise.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Chanel posted on
I passed my RAD in October 2017 and I am still on the merit list. The vacancies are no longer being advertised. I don't call anymore as I am losing hope. The whole recruitment process is a shambles and makes me question if I want to work for such an organisation. So many errors and delays.
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Chanel,
Thank you for your feedback, as it helps us to improve. I do understand your frustration and I will ensure I pass it on to the relevant person.
In the meantime, I wish you the best of luck with your application.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Shannon posted on
Hi
Can you also pass on further negative feedback. I passed my RAD in April and have been on 3 Merit Lists. I was placed on 1 merit list for the job to be advertised again on a new campaign a few weeks later. This was a huge kick in the teeth to be quite honest. I think it is such an intense recruitment process to go through to have nothing at the end. I have lost all hope of a ever receiving a job offer.
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Shannon,
We do understand it’s frustrating and I’m sorry to hear this. I will pass this feedback onto the relevant person.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Nicola posted on
Hi, I’m on the reserve list, when I’m lucky enough to move onto the next stage do they email you or phone you?
Comment by Emily posted on
Hi Nicola,
You should receive an update on your applicant portal or an email.
You’ll begin your pre-employment checks also known as vetting. You can read more about vetting in our blog post here - https://prisonjobs.blog.gov.uk/2018/03/22/prison-officer-vetting-101/
Comment by Nicola posted on
Hi, can you confirm if I can transfer my RAD results to more then one prison, just gives me more of a chance to get a position?
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Nicola,
No, you’ll only be able to transfer your RAD to one prison at a time. The original prison you applied to will then no longer be able to offer you a position if you transfer your RAD.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Kay posted on
Hello.
I’ve just been sent an email so say I have passed my RAD day though been put on the merit list.
Does this mean the next available job I will get offered or will I have to re apply to start again if I see the prison re advertising? Only ask as I’ve read through this blog and doesn’t look like people get far being on this list.
Thank you.
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Kay,
Yes, you’ll remain on the merit list for up to 12 months until a vacancy arises but whilst on the merit list you can apply to other prisons. Please refer to the above blog post as we explain the merit list in further detail.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Shannon posted on
Hello
I have spoke to the recruitment line this morning to transfer my RAD and the lady I spoke to said I could be placed on as many merit lists as I want to and any of them prisons could ring up to offer me a position at any time. She said they don't take your RAD away from one prison and put it to another they 'copy' it.
This is really confusing as throughout this blog it states you cant be on more than one.
Please can you help at all?
Thanks
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Shannon,
Yes you can copy your RAD to numerous prisons, but you need to make sure you’ve applied for and passed all the online tests for each prison you want to submit an application to.
Once you’ve been given a job offer from one prison all of your other applications will be withdrawn. In other words, you can’t accept a job offer for more than one application and then decide which one to go for at a later date (this is something we’ve been frequently asked, hence why there may have been some confusion).
I hope this clears things up.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Joe posted on
Hello,
I've just passed my RAD and received an email explaining about the merit list and that the process of contacting applicants will start once all the RAD assesments have finished. I have also been sent the OH form which I have promptly filled in and returned.
I have just logged onto the portal and my application status says “This vacancy attracted a number of highly qualified applicants and after careful consideration of all of the applications we are sorry to tell you that you have not been selected for appointment.
However, as you were a strong candidate we would like to keep your name on a reserve list.”
Does this mean that all the assesments have finished and the vacancies have been filled? Like it says on the portal or does it mean that I am still waiting for all the applicants to finish the RAD before a decision is made as stated on the email.
Is it also possible to find out my own personal RAD score ?
Apologies for the long questions !
Comment by Emily posted on
Hi Joe
We've replied to a similar question here: https://prisonjobs.blog.gov.uk/2017/12/13/an-introduction-to-poelt-prison-officer-entry-level-training/#comment-215
Also, yes you do get your RAD results - they should come to you by email. They take around 5 working days from your RAD date to be sent.
If you haven’t received it, you should contact the RAD centre you attended to chase it up.
Thanks
Emily
Comment by Carl posted on
Please can you tell me the appeal process for vetting. I have failed for not disclosing a caution even though I detailed in the notes that I was unsure as to whether this was a caution and gave dates and details. THis was what the supplementary notes said to do yet I am still being penalised. Has anyone else had this experience?
Comment by Emily posted on
Hi Carl
As per the blog post on this page - please get in touch with the Vetting Action Team - their details will have been provided in an email to you.
Comment by Mikala posted on
I have just been placed on a merit list for a pass campaign prison. Reading through the comments im not all that optimistic about ever receiving a job offer as everyone seems to be in the same boat and noone has said they have heard anything after being on merit. With how intense the RAD day is and receiving the news you have passed to then be told youre on a merit list is very disheartening and i think the whole process really needs to be altered and more structured. Feeling quite negative towards this whole process now and its a shame because i really want to get started yet im stuck in a job i hate waiting for a job i really want
Comment by Emily posted on
Hi Mikala
I understand your frustration and I'll be sure to pass this on to the relevant people.
However, HMPPS do issue job offers out to people on merit lists but I'm afraid we can't give out further details on this as we're only blog moderators.
Thanks for your comment,
Emily
Comment by arman posted on
i have just sent my uniform order through the post, but when does my uniform actually arrive for me to wear? my starting date is on 31/12/2018
Comment by Emily posted on
Hi Arman
You pick up your uniform on your first day.
Comment by Naveed posted on
I too echoe the thoughts of many on here. I aced my RAD and the role play scenarios and was under the impression that once my vetting was done I would start my training. Now I’ve been told I’m on a merit list which is bitterly disappointing.
The recruitment process does need improving and I feel for everyone in the same boat as me. I applied in Feb 2018.
Only thing I will say is that speak to the prison directly. I’ve been very fortunate that the vetting team (lady in particular) at Wetherby has been very helpful.
Best of luck to everyone.
Comment by Su posted on
Can you retake the online test again if you fail ?
Comment by Emily posted on
Hi Su
Thanks for your query. Yes you can retake the test in 28 days’ time if you are applying for the same prison. If applying for a different prison, you can apply straight away.
You’d might also like to take a look at other roles within the prison service, such as the operational support grade job, where you’d play a crucial part in keeping prisons safe and running smoothly: https://justicejobs.tal.net/candidate/jobboard/vacancy/3/adv/
Comment by Stan posted on
Hi,
I have passed my RAD and began the vetting process, unfortunately I have just found out I'm illegible for the CAT A position. I am a Commonwealth citizen who has lived in the UK for 4 years under a spousal visa, there are no work restrictions on the visa and will be getting ILR in 2020. I am wondering if this visa issue only applies to CAT A prisons? Would I be able to transfer my application to lower security?
Thanks
Stan
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Stan,
Please call the recruitment contact centre on 0845 241 5358, as they will be able to assist you.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by basat khan posted on
I passed my Rad in Jan 2018
I am on the reserve list. I have decided to apply for more prisons for better opportunity does this affect the availability of position originally applied to when Rad is mirrored over to other prisons.
thanks await reply.
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Basat,
No, your position on your original prison merit list will not be affected.
Please read more about transferring your RAD accreditation here - https://prisonjobs.blog.gov.uk/2018/03/22/prison-officer-vetting-101/#comment-1047
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Marc posted on
Hi,
I have recently passed my assessment day and fitness test but as of yet I have not heard anything about vetting, I have been told that I am now on a waiting list for a job at my selected prison, can you advise does vetting take place before or after a job offer.
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Marc,
Vetting will begin once you’ve been given a provisional offer. Take a look at the candidate journey here - https://justicejobs.tal.net/vx/candidate/cms/3.%20Live%20RAD%20Candidate%20Journey
Thanks, Helena
Comment by nicola holcombe posted on
Hi
I have been offered a job at a prison as a Drug and Alcohol worker and am now waiting for my vetting form.
What type of questions do they ask and do they require information about points on your licence.
Kind regards
Nikki
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Nikki,
I’m afraid I can’t go into too much detail about our vetting forms on this public blog. Please make sure you disclose all information.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Tara Curtis posted on
Hi,
I have passed my RAD, 6 weeks ago. Was under the impression as it is a pass campaign that I would have heard something by now. How long should I be waiting before getting in contact to find out what is happening.
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Tara,
The pass campaign still has a merit list which you can remain on for up to 12 months but differs slightly to a merit campaign.
Please see the difference between merit and pass campaigns here - https://prisonjobs.blog.gov.uk/2018/03/22/prison-officer-vetting-101/#comment-484
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Magdalena posted on
Hello,
About 5 days ago I have applied for the position of prison officer and 2 days ago I have been invited to attend Recruitment Event.Not sure how to prepare myself? What documents to bring? What to expect? Thank you.
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Magdalena,
Please keep an eye on your emails, you’ll be contacted with more information.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Norm posted on
Good evening
Please can I ask is a criminal record an automatic bar to becoming a prison officer, or is it dependent on various factors such as type of offence and disposal? Thank you.
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Norm,
HMPPS welcomes applications from a variety of backgrounds to become prison officers, including people who’ve had criminal convictions or charges. During the pre-employment (vetting) checks, every case is reviewed on an individual basis by an experienced team. All convictions are assessed as part of this review and do not automatically prevent or affect candidates from passing their checks to become a prison officer.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Norm Sona posted on
Good afternoon
In terms of criminal records, do you have a list of criteria in terms of what will exclude and applicant?
Thank you
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Norm,
As blog moderator I don’t hold this information. As per this comment https://prisonjobs.blog.gov.uk/2018/03/22/prison-officer-vetting-101/#comment-1120 - all convictions are assessed as part of this review and do not automatically prevent or affect candidates from passing their checks to become a prison officer.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Shannon posted on
Hello
I passed RAD in April and I am currently on 3 merit lists. I am not hopeful of ever gaining a position but I am curious to know what happens when the 12 months has expired. Are we contacted at all?
Thanks.
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Shannon,
I’m sorry to hear this and I understand your frustration. After the 12 months, I’m afraid you’ll need to re-apply and go through the application process again.
However, HMPPS always endeavour as much as possible to issue job offers before the 12 months are up.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Liviu Stanisor posted on
Hello,
I will start my POELT in 12 of November. Can you tell me when I will receive first salary?
Thank you.
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Liviu,
You’ll receive your wage at the end of every month. As you start on November 12, your first wage will be pro-rata to the days you’ve worked in November.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Nina posted on
Hi,
I can see many questions similar to mine, I also am on a merit list for 2 Prisons. My question was more aimed at as I was accredited for both adult and HMYOI is this taken into account in level of results or not? or is it more based on your actual scores by role plays etc regardless of whether you are accredited for both, if you could please advise thank you.
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Nina,
Being accredited for both establishments will not put you at an advantage compared to other applicants. The merit list is based on your RAD scores.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by David King posted on
Thanks
Comment by Matt Harper posted on
Hello
I applied to HMP Nottingham at the end of May 2018, I passed the RAD on 26/7/18, and was placed on the merit list. I applied on campaign 201805 and recruitment continued with campaigns upto 201808, It now states on the job search that recruitment has ended until mid October, I have contacted recruitment and Nottingham prison but no one seems to be able to tell me when positions will become available.
Any advice would be welcome.
Thanks
Matt
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Matt,
From the information you’ve provided it looks like you’re on the merit list. Once all applicants have completed their RAD, the prison will then begin to make job offers to those on the merit list once a position becomes available over the 12 months period.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Aisha cooke posted on
Hello,
I have recently failed my vetting. Who should I contact regarding this or is this the end of my application.
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Aisha,
In the first instance please call the Recruitment Contact Centre on 0845 241 5358, they’ll be able to help you.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Daisybell posted on
Hi there,
I am currently going through vetting for a non-op Intervention Facilitators post in Programmes.
My online portal is now showing as ‘a decision is being made’... how long roughly does this stage take please?
The job I am being vetted for is at HMP Wealstun and I already work in the education department there with NOVUS, and I have worked for HMP for 11 years prior to this.
Thanks
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Daisybell,
I'm afraid I can't advise on the process for non-prison officer roles. However, please keep checking back on your applicant portal for updates on your vetting status.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by deiniol posted on
hi am doing my vetting online questions now but am stuck on the professional membership anyone know what this is many thanks
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Deiniol,
We’ve answered a similar question here - https://prisonjobs.blog.gov.uk/2018/03/22/prison-officer-vetting-101/#comment-607
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Marta posted on
Hello,
I have passed my RAD over 20 days ago, the same day I received an email saying I was on the merit list and on the portal it states I haven't been selected for an appointment. However, yesterday I got a letter from OH saying I should complete my health questionary. Is this letter sent out to everyone that is successfull in their RAD or does this means I'm gonna get an offer? Because I have checked the Candidate journey and everything and I can't seem to find this information there.
Thanks
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Marta,
The occupational health questionnaire is sent to everyone who has passed their RAD - it’s not an indication on whether or not you’ve been offered a role, as the OH team don’t hold this information.
As you’re on the merit list, we recommend you still please fill out the questionnaire so that your documentation is completed, should you receive an offer within the 12 months’ time frame.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by laura meredith posted on
Hi – I have completed my RAD and I am due to start training in January, however another prison much closer to home has advertised vacancies.
I am able to transfer to this prison instead?
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Laura,
Due to already having a start date, I’m afraid we wouldn’t be able to advise you on this. I’d encourage you to ring the prison you’ve applied to and speak to the recruitment advisor there as they’ll be able to help you.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Us posted on
Hi
I accepted a offer as an OSG at a prison. I've already on a waiting list for a prison officer elsewhere. Now I've accepted this offer as an OSG will it effect my status on the reserve list for a prison officer.
Also will being an OSG help towards becoming a prison officer. Will I have to be re-vetted, complete another probation period if I move on from a OSG to prison officer eventually
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi,
An operational support grade (OSG) is a slightly different role, so your application to become a prison officer will still be valid. You can remain on the merit list for up to 12 months before your RAD accreditation expires. You can read more about the merit list on the above blog post.
Yes, being an OSG can help towards becoming a prison officer as the skills are similar in helping to run our prisons. If you’re still an OSG when you take up the prison officer post, you won’t need to be re-vetted, you’ll just need to complete your health assessments.
If you’ve applied to either a youth custody prison or a high security prison, you’ll require a higher level of vetting.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by israfil Erbil posted on
Dear Helena
The portal has a sign says "The portal is currently down for essential maintenance". Do you have Any Idea how long it would take portal to be back to normal. Thank you
Comment by Emily posted on
Hi
Apologies for the delay in our response. Does the problem with the portal still persist?
Thanks
Emily
Comment by İsrafil Erbil posted on
Hi Emily
İt’s all ok now. Thank you
İsrafil Erbil
Comment by David posted on
Hi there,
Can you become a prison officer if you have a minor conviction. Is there a document or something to view detailing the prison services recruitment procedure for people with a criminal record?
Thanks
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi David,
We’ve answered a similar question here - https://prisonjobs.blog.gov.uk/2018/03/22/prison-officer-vetting-101/#comment-1120
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Stephen posted on
Hello,
Is there any more information about the pension schemes on offer?
Many thanks
Comment by Emily posted on
Hi Stephen,
As blog moderator, I’m afraid I don’t hold specific information on pensions. However, once in post you’ll receive a Civil Service pension of up to 20% of your salary.
Please ask your POELT mentor once you’ve been assigned to one, as they’ll be able to provide more information.
Thanks,
Emily
Comment by Jessica posted on
Hello,
I took my RAD in September. I passed everything except the fitness test which I took again and passed successfully last week.
However I have not heard anything about my application since I left the building. There is no update on my application online and I have not had any emails ( I have checked the junk )
Please can you advise me on who to contact.
Thank you
Comment by Emily posted on
Hi Jessica,
It takes a few days to hear back due to the number of candidates going through the application process. You can ring the SSCL recruitment contact centre on 0845 241 5358 as they may be able to help.
Emily
Comment by Paul. posted on
Hi,
I unfortunately I failed my vetting in February this year, due to being dismissed from a previous job. I'm being told by officers I know that I can can re apply for a prison officer job after 6 months from failing. Is this the case, or does the length of time go on a case by case basis?
Regards.
Comment by Emily posted on
Hi Paul
We've already answered this question previously: https://prisonjobs.blog.gov.uk/2018/03/22/prison-officer-vetting-101/#comment-1000
If you've not passed vetting, you have to wait 12 months before re-applying.
Thanks
Emily
Comment by Paul posted on
Thank your answering, can I apply for the job earlier as it can take around a month or so before you get to vetting stage? Or do I need to wait the whole 12 months before I can apply for the job?
Regards
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Paul,
You’ll need to wait the whole 12 months to reapply again, I’m afraid you won’t be able to apply any earlier than this time period.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Stephanie posted on
Hello Are there set dates for POELT start dates or do they differ at each venue
Regards
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Stephanie,
POELT dates differ depending on each prison. You can read more about POELT on this blog post - https://prisonjobs.blog.gov.uk/2017/12/13/an-introduction-to-poelt-prison-officer-entry-level-training/
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Aisha posted on
I have failed my vetting because I have a reprimand of the record that I was unaware of. I have had 2 enhanced DBS checks over the last few years and this has not shown on either. Do I have to wait the 12 months to reapply?
Can I apply for other roles in the prison such as a OSG position?
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Aisha,
Yes, you’ll need to wait 12 months before re-applying for any prison officer role, including OSG roles.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Stephanie posted on
Thank you for the link
Comment by Dan posted on
Hi I passed my RAD around 6 months ago and hadn’t heard anything until recently. I was contacted by the vetting team who asked me to come into the prison with some more identification documents so I assumed I was starting the vetting process, yet now I have recieved an email saying I have been placed onto the merit list for appointment? Does this mean I am being vetted as there is a position available or are checks made before an offer of employment is given? Thank you
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Dan,
The vetting team needs all identification documents before you can be added on to the merit list. This means if a vacancy comes up for you whilst you’re on the merit list, they can begin the process quickly.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Marta posted on
Hello,
I'm currently on the vetting process, and I was told that there are intakes for the POELT... So I know if I pass the vetting process I'm supposed to be contacted straight away with an official offer and then are given a starting date, but what I was told is that this starting date could be months from that moment - so I'd be waiting for the next intake and not put on the training in a short period of time after accepting the offer. Is this true?
Thanks
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Marta,
Once you’ve passed vetting and a space becomes available, you’ll then be invited to begin your POELT.
We’ve answered a similar question that might be helpful - https://prisonjobs.blog.gov.uk/2017/12/13/an-introduction-to-poelt-prison-officer-entry-level-training/#comment-8
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Krissie posted on
Hey,
I have recently passed my RAD and complete the OH questionnaire.
I am aware I’m on the merits list for my first application but haven’t heard anything since. I am eager to start.
Can you apply for multiple prisons at the same time? If so at what stage would I need to request my RAD results be transferred from my original role? Would I remain on the merits list of the original prison until I am offered a position in a prison?
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Krissie,
We’ve answered a similar question here - https://prisonjobs.blog.gov.uk/2018/03/22/prison-officer-vetting-101/#comment-1047
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Usman posted on
Hi
I've accepted a conditional offer for a prison officer role. However, it is quite away from home. I've accepted it and currently going through pre employment checks. In the future want something closer. Can I transfer to a different prison during the poelt course or apply to a different prison?
Can I transfer eventually after starting as a prison officer. Where can I receive more info about transfering.
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Usman,
Due to already accepting a conditional offer, I’m afraid we wouldn’t be able to advise you on this. I’d encourage you to ring the prison you’ve applied to and speak to the recruitment advisor there as they’ll be able to help you.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Valerie posted on
I’m currently on the merit list having passed my RAD, but what does the scores actually mean? What is the scoring system and what is considered a high score?
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Valerie,
Your score on the merit list takes into consideration all the scores you achieved on your RAD tests. Your scores are combined and you’re then put on the merit list in order of your score against the other candidates.
As blog moderators, we don’t hold specific details about the scoring system or where you are on the merit list, but I hope that’s helpful.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Alex Milton posted on
It says I should hear from the team soon does that mean that my pre employment checks are finished?
Comment by Helena posted on
Hi Alex,
I’m afraid we can’t advise on this. Please keep an eye on your recruitment portal and emails for updates about your status.
Thanks, Helena
Comment by Dave posted on
Hi Helena.
I was just wondering .is the vetting carried out by the prison you have applied for or a separate concern. Also do they work weekends or just Monday to Friday? Thanks in advance
Comment by Emily posted on
Hi Dave,
Vetting isn't carried out by the prison itself - it's carried out by the prison's recruitment team which is a separate organisation. They work Monday to Friday.
Thanks
Emily
Comment by Emily posted on
Hi everyone
Comments for blog posts older than 6 months will now automatically be shut down.
If you have any questions not answered on this page, please do explore the rest of the blog or you can also take a look at our latest FAQs blog post here: https://prisonjobs.blog.gov.uk/2018/10/15/the-recruitment-assessment-day-rad-is-changing-to-the-assessment-recruitment-centre-arc/
Thank you,
Emily and Helena